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This is feminism gone insane. Do these people go around trying to find stuff to be offended by? "Frat party" is offensive now? What about the very existence of

This is feminism gone insane. Do these people go around trying to find stuff to be offended by? "Frat party" is offensive now? What about the very existence of frats altogether. Should we ban those? Oh what about men's clubs? What about groups of men? Tell you what, why don't we ban men gathering in groups of 3 or more. That oughta correct sexism.

justizin 11y ago
> What about the very existence of frats altogether. Should we ban those? A lot of people think so. ;)
- littletimmy 11y ago
  Yeah that's true. But my take on that is if a group of people wants to self-segregate and socialize separately then the state or society ought not to have authority to stop that.
  - justizin 11y ago
    Circular logic.
geofft 11y ago
> Do these people go around trying to find stuff to be offended by? No one said anything about being offended. What they did do was identify a problem, based on it fitting the pattern of other things that are empirically problems. This is literally what hackers do. Hand us a codebase, we will go around looking for problems, calling attention to them, and fixing them. Hand us a legal situation (like copyright law on software), we'll investigate it and figure out ways to fix it. Hand us an industry, we'll find the inefficiencies and disrupt it. There are certainly people who don't really feel compelled to call attention to problems. They tend to be either non-hackers who don't notice problems and have trouble believing reports of problems ("We take your security very seriously and follow industry best practice"), or malicious hackers who understand a problem but are benefiting from it continuing to exist.
theorique 11y ago
"Frat party" is offensive now? What about the very existence of frats altogether. Should we ban those? Oh what about men's clubs? What about groups of men? Some people do believe that any men organizing and assembling in groups - specifically as men, and excluding women by choice - is actually unacceptable. It would be interesting to compare the set of people who believe that, with the set of people who believe that exclusionary, so-called "safe spaces" are fine for women and/or minorities. (Obviously, no sex-exclusive "safe spaces" are permissible for men, for any reason.)

justizin 11y ago

> What about the very existence of frats altogether. Should we ban those? A lot of people think so. ;)

littletimmy 11y ago
Yeah that's true. But my take on that is if a group of people wants to self-segregate and socialize separately then the state or society ought not to have authority to stop that.
- justizin 11y ago
  Circular logic.

geofft 11y ago

> Do these people go around trying to find stuff to be offended by? No one said anything about being offended. What they did do was identify a problem, based on it fitting the pattern of other things that are empirically problems. This is literally what hackers do. Hand us a codebase, we will go around looking for problems, calling attention to them, and fixing them. Hand us a legal situation (like copyright law on software), we'll investigate it and figure out ways to fix it. Hand us an industry, we'll find the inefficiencies and disrupt it. There are certainly people who don't really feel compelled to call attention to problems. They tend to be either non-hackers who don't notice problems and have trouble believing reports of problems ("We take your security very seriously and follow industry best practice"), or malicious hackers who understand a problem but are benefiting from it continuing to exist.

theorique 11y ago

"Frat party" is offensive now? What about the very existence of frats altogether. Should we ban those? Oh what about men's clubs? What about groups of men? Some people do believe that any men organizing and assembling in groups - specifically as men, and excluding women by choice - is actually unacceptable. It would be interesting to compare the set of people who believe that, with the set of people who believe that exclusionary, so-called "safe spaces" are fine for women and/or minorities. (Obviously, no sex-exclusive "safe spaces" are permissible for men, for any reason.)