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There actually has been precedent for ocean acidification: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

There actually has been precedent for ocean acidification: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Therm... But I don't think we should only be scared by things that cause "full trophic collapse". We're looking at unprecedented environmental changes (in terms of speed) at about the same time the world population will be hitting 11 Billion people. Foreseeing how all the variables will interact is almost impossible. Yes, the earth and life will go on. But it very well could be a horrible and scary place to live for us humans in the interim.

x5n1 11y ago
That's what a lot of these people don't get. At no time in our past has the Earth had to support more than a few hundred million humans. So exactly, welcome to the climate change holocaust. Except it won't be 6 million, more likely a billion. And the wars and the violence to go with it.
- happyscrappy 11y ago
  Climate zealots are ridiculous on both sides. Comments like yours, while popular, are the opposite of science. Do you want to get people on board to reduce pollution, then stop insulting their intelligence with juvenile nonsense. Listen to the scientists.
  - x5n1 11y ago
    How is your comment any more mature. It borders on the line of religious zealotry with the status quo who don't know what they are doing. It's like yes we produce a bunch of garbage. Sure a lot of people might die, but at least we are professional about it. Yeah people like you take this stuff very seriously. You guys are all grown up. The elite, just like all elite, are the blind leading the blind. They don't know what the fuck they are doing, but are sure damn well sure in themselves. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/nov/03/global-warming-climate-refugees http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/nov/03/global-wa... 11 billion * .10 = 1.1 billion Right now: 11.3% of the world’s population is hungry. That’s roughly 805 million people who go undernourished on a daily basis, consuming less than the recommended 2,100 calories a day. That number will increase.
    - happyscrappy 11y ago
      You can disagree with the scientists but they sure as hell are not the elite.
      - prawn 11y ago
        How are they disagreeing with the science? They seemed to be smartly extending the grandparent's comment to me.
clebio 11y ago
Gotta love a good "prominent negative excursion". Which is to say, gotta love unabashed scientific writing. "Neutral bouyancy" would be another good one. We need better basic science writing, even if it is on the quagmire that is wikipedia.
- clebio 11y ago
  And by "quagmire" I mean... > We know the entire exogenic carbon cycle ... underwent a −0.2 % to −0.3 % perturbation in δ13C ... [citation needed] much? And yet, wikipedia is not standardized nor enforced for such things. Sorry for the digression.

x5n1 11y ago

That's what a lot of these people don't get. At no time in our past has the Earth had to support more than a few hundred million humans. So exactly, welcome to the climate change holocaust. Except it won't be 6 million, more likely a billion. And the wars and the violence to go with it.

happyscrappy 11y ago
Climate zealots are ridiculous on both sides. Comments like yours, while popular, are the opposite of science. Do you want to get people on board to reduce pollution, then stop insulting their intelligence with juvenile nonsense. Listen to the scientists.
- x5n1 11y ago
  How is your comment any more mature. It borders on the line of religious zealotry with the status quo who don't know what they are doing. It's like yes we produce a bunch of garbage. Sure a lot of people might die, but at least we are professional about it. Yeah people like you take this stuff very seriously. You guys are all grown up. The elite, just like all elite, are the blind leading the blind. They don't know what the fuck they are doing, but are sure damn well sure in themselves. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/nov/03/global-warming-climate-refugees http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/nov/03/global-wa... 11 billion * .10 = 1.1 billion Right now: 11.3% of the world’s population is hungry. That’s roughly 805 million people who go undernourished on a daily basis, consuming less than the recommended 2,100 calories a day. That number will increase.
  - happyscrappy 11y ago
    You can disagree with the scientists but they sure as hell are not the elite.
    - prawn 11y ago
      How are they disagreeing with the science? They seemed to be smartly extending the grandparent's comment to me.

clebio 11y ago

Gotta love a good "prominent negative excursion". Which is to say, gotta love unabashed scientific writing. "Neutral bouyancy" would be another good one. We need better basic science writing, even if it is on the quagmire that is wikipedia.

clebio 11y ago
And by "quagmire" I mean... > We know the entire exogenic carbon cycle ... underwent a −0.2 % to −0.3 % perturbation in δ13C ... [citation needed] much? And yet, wikipedia is not standardized nor enforced for such things. Sorry for the digression.