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Hopefully Google Follows this approach. Funny Side Note: Google lets users comment before download of an app is complete. This results in significant number of

by kumarm 11y ago

Hopefully Google Follows this approach. Funny Side Note: Google lets users comment before download of an app is complete. This results in significant number of Comments saying "Download too slow". App Developers can't do anything about how fast apps are downloaded :).

djent 11y ago
There was a time when Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, etc. apps were all around 5-10Mb in size. Now they're 30-80Mb. That's on the developers, and makes the download take longer.
- mrdrozdov 11y ago
  This is easy to tell before downloading the app (this size is usually listed) and doesn't require a comment. Apple has changed the max size limit for cellular downloads over time (it's now 100mb but used to be as small as 20mb), partially explaining the growth over time.
- glhaynes 11y ago
  Not all of that is the app makers' fault. These days they generally need to support 32-bit ARM (maybe 2 different flavors?), 64-bit ARM, @1x, @2x, and @3x assets, iPad and iPhone versions, etc all in one bundle. Fortunately, Apple is adding new functionality ("App Thinning") to iOS 9 to strip unneeded stuff out from the bundle that the Store sends the device.
joelrunyon 11y ago
In my experience, I've found Apple tends to drive way more downloads, but the quality of reviews are much worse (people either love it or hate it - 1 or 5 stars). Play users tend to be much more nuanced with lots more 2-3-4s and multi-faceted comments on the actual usage of the app.
bitwarrior 11y ago
Ideally this is used as signal to weed out shit reviews. Reviews posted while still downloading go straight to /dev/null, while marking the user having "reviewed" said product and unable to do so again. I was actually thinking about using these red herrings in other applications, specifically dota2. Users can report others, but abuse this by reporting others for being, what they believe, merely poorer (than themselves) at playing the game. Creates a little signal to noise problem. It would be an interesting experiment to create these report types ("Bad at the game", for example), but completely disregarding the report against the user. If anything, it could be used against the submitter themselves. It's an interesting thought - red herrings as a UI concept.

by kumarm 11y ago

djent 11y ago

There was a time when Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, etc. apps were all around 5-10Mb in size. Now they're 30-80Mb. That's on the developers, and makes the download take longer.

mrdrozdov 11y ago
This is easy to tell before downloading the app (this size is usually listed) and doesn't require a comment. Apple has changed the max size limit for cellular downloads over time (it's now 100mb but used to be as small as 20mb), partially explaining the growth over time.
glhaynes 11y ago
Not all of that is the app makers' fault. These days they generally need to support 32-bit ARM (maybe 2 different flavors?), 64-bit ARM, @1x, @2x, and @3x assets, iPad and iPhone versions, etc all in one bundle. Fortunately, Apple is adding new functionality ("App Thinning") to iOS 9 to strip unneeded stuff out from the bundle that the Store sends the device.

joelrunyon 11y ago

In my experience, I've found Apple tends to drive way more downloads, but the quality of reviews are much worse (people either love it or hate it - 1 or 5 stars). Play users tend to be much more nuanced with lots more 2-3-4s and multi-faceted comments on the actual usage of the app.

bitwarrior 11y ago

Ideally this is used as signal to weed out shit reviews. Reviews posted while still downloading go straight to /dev/null, while marking the user having "reviewed" said product and unable to do so again. I was actually thinking about using these red herrings in other applications, specifically dota2. Users can report others, but abuse this by reporting others for being, what they believe, merely poorer (than themselves) at playing the game. Creates a little signal to noise problem. It would be an interesting experiment to create these report types ("Bad at the game", for example), but completely disregarding the report against the user. If anything, it could be used against the submitter themselves. It's an interesting thought - red herrings as a UI concept.