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I can't believe the number of people defending Google in the comments on that article and elsewhere. I'm sorry, but if you actively recruit someone and intervie

by zajd 11y ago

I can't believe the number of people defending Google in the comments on that article and elsewhere. I'm sorry, but if you actively recruit someone and interview them in person FOUR times but continue to mysteriously deny them something is horrifically wrong with your hiring process. Beyond that, statistics don't lie.

clebio 11y ago
Completely agree. Even if the only thing wrong is, they can't keep track of who they've already interviewed (so they don't call them again), that's pretty sad. You're freakin' Google, and you can keep your decided-against list eventually consistent? Poor form.
- plonh 11y ago
  "No hire" is not a permanent Scarlet letter. Why is it wrong to take a second chance?
haylem 11y ago
I don't know... They interviewed me 5 times, and I don't mind so much. It's a bit frustrating, but I can understand why. Sure there were a few cases of "oops, didn't realize we interviewed you already" and I'm sure there are cases of "we just don't like you as a person". But I'm pretty sure overall, with Google and most companies, the reason was just "you just weren't good enough compared to our other current candidates." And that's OK. The fact that they re-interview someone they dismiss is a good thing. The fact that they re-interview N times a person they've dismissed N-1 times is just unfortunate and makes it more visible, but it's not in itself a malevolent thing. Maybe it'd be best if they didn't re-interview at all because it makes them look bad (after all, chances are higher they'll reject you again if they already did). But I guess I prefer the view that they don't want to pass on someone that might have improved, or someone that they might have dismissed for the wrong reasons the first time. And I see that as rather positive. I personally re-interviewed some people multiple times - and both people I had rejected before and people I had approved but who denied or who got hired but then left and decided to come back. It doesn't struck me as a bad thing to re-assess people based on your current needs and your current workforce. You just have not to be a jerk about it. I'm sure not everybody shares that view though.
WalterSear 11y ago
Sounds like you've never heard how terrible the interview system is at google. Four interviews and no offer doesn't seem at all out of the ordinary. I know more than one person that started refusing google job opportunities due to the bullshit.

by zajd 11y ago

clebio 11y ago

Completely agree. Even if the only thing wrong is, they can't keep track of who they've already interviewed (so they don't call them again), that's pretty sad. You're freakin' Google, and you can keep your decided-against list eventually consistent? Poor form.

plonh 11y ago
"No hire" is not a permanent Scarlet letter. Why is it wrong to take a second chance?

haylem 11y ago

I don't know... They interviewed me 5 times, and I don't mind so much. It's a bit frustrating, but I can understand why. Sure there were a few cases of "oops, didn't realize we interviewed you already" and I'm sure there are cases of "we just don't like you as a person". But I'm pretty sure overall, with Google and most companies, the reason was just "you just weren't good enough compared to our other current candidates." And that's OK. The fact that they re-interview someone they dismiss is a good thing. The fact that they re-interview N times a person they've dismissed N-1 times is just unfortunate and makes it more visible, but it's not in itself a malevolent thing. Maybe it'd be best if they didn't re-interview at all because it makes them look bad (after all, chances are higher they'll reject you again if they already did). But I guess I prefer the view that they don't want to pass on someone that might have improved, or someone that they might have dismissed for the wrong reasons the first time. And I see that as rather positive. I personally re-interviewed some people multiple times - and both people I had rejected before and people I had approved but who denied or who got hired but then left and decided to come back. It doesn't struck me as a bad thing to re-assess people based on your current needs and your current workforce. You just have not to be a jerk about it. I'm sure not everybody shares that view though.

WalterSear 11y ago

Sounds like you've never heard how terrible the interview system is at google. Four interviews and no offer doesn't seem at all out of the ordinary. I know more than one person that started refusing google job opportunities due to the bullshit.