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So she has good qualifications but poor interview skills.
by iza 11y ago
So she has good qualifications but poor interview skills.
- mkempe 11y agoAfter the first interview she was re-contacted by the Google recruiters who told her she had done very well in her interview, and that was why they were contacting her for other positions.
- Someone1234 11y agoMaybe. It is very hard to prove one way or another. The only way to "prove" discrimination is to show a pattern of behaviours rather than isolated incidents. That's what lawsuits like this often hinge upon, they will use discovery to primarily prove that discrimination is occurring.
- sosuke 11y agoSeems just strange to keep asking someone you reject to come back. When I am turned away I am turned away no more.
- justizin 11y agoI on multiple occasions have asked Google recruiters to put me on a "leave me the fuck alone" list.
- edroche 11y agoFour times does seem excessive, but I have been called back by companies to interview for other positions in the past. I wasn't a fit for some reason in the first instance, but my information was saved and presented again when another opportunity came up that they thought I would be a fit for.
- potatolicious 11y agoAlternatively, she has good qualifications and Google has interview practices or policies that are - intentionally or not - age-discriminatory. Generally speaking, if well-qualified people are constantly failing your interviews, the problem may not be these well-qualified people and instead might be your interviews ;) Considering that the typical programming interview in this industry does not involve writing any actual code (no, waving your arms against a whiteboard in a coding-like way doesn't count), I'm generally inclined to believe interviews are more problematic than interviewees.
- Ntrails 11y ago>Generally speaking, if well-qualified people are constantly failing your interviews, the problem may not be these well-qualified people and instead might be your interviews ;) Google have [probably] rarely interviewed anyone who was not well qualified - yet around 90% of candidates fail the interview. I am assuming there will be ~10 interviewed candidates per role and they have pre-screening essentially for "qualified on paper". I've no position on whether they're discriminatory, but that statement simply doesn't hold water.
- vonmoltke 11y agoI trust then Google is not one of the companies whining about "talent shortages" then?
- techdragon 11y agoBiggest point here. You can't flunk out 90% of your applications and complain you have a shortage of qualified staff. You have people begging to work for you, how about you hire a few of them and teach them anything that's missing. Oh the horror, the employees aren't replaceable meat cogs in some giant machine.
- plonh 11y agoThat is illogical. If a million plumbers and no programmers applied to be programmers, would Google be wrong to not hire them? We are talking about skilled jobs in a specific trade.
- vonmoltke 11y agoWhy are you interviewing the plumbers? If a million plumber and no programmers applied, you would immediately reject every resume and not interview anyone. Note that this assumes none of the plumbers have been working on teaching themselves software development in order to make a career change and thus do not have non-work evidence of competence.
- metamet 11y agoYup. Happens all the time. You're going to have quite a few candidates who are technically qualified. That's sort of the purpose of interviewing them. And now she will never get hired by Google after trying to sue them.
- logfromblammo 11y agoThe reason she joined the lawsuit is because she believed that Google was never going to hire her anyway. So you're sort of implying that she is somehow burning a bridge that was never built.
- greenyoda 11y ago"And now she will never get hired by Google after trying to sue them." I don't think she cares much about working for Google in the future, since she's switched careers and bought a dairy farm.
- justizin 11y agoIt's fairly notorious that /Google/ has poor interview skills. A study by their own HR department showed as much. They have extreme prejudice in favor of attributes that do not impact performance.
- collyw 11y agoSo does almost everywhere I have interviewed recently. Hour and a half coding test. Why? I never code like that.
- potatolicious 11y agoAs an industry we basically have no idea how to hire coders. Worse, copying interview practices from the big tech companies is rampant, even though the big companies are by far the most dogmatic of them all. Remember when asking "logic" brain teasers was believed to be highly correlated with programming ability? Why are manhole covers round? How many jelly beans are in this jar? Why is this lightbulb so fucking warm? Not so long ago these were serious interview questions. Then the big tech-cos moved onto simply making people scribble algorithms problems on a whiteboard and everybody else followed unquestioningly. There is shockingly little self-reflection when it comes to tech interview methodology, and for an industry so obsessed with proving assumptions with data, we also do very little of that. Most interview "best practices" are accepted on faith and their validity is literally never tested.
- richmarr 11y agoSo she has good qualifications but poor interview skills. If this is true then Google are hiring wrong. 'Interview skills' is pretty much a euphamism for allowing confidence bias to dominate your interview process.