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> More than a bird even A lithium battery is going to get chopped up and spit out the rear of the engine - if it manages to get in the intake to begin with, wh

> More than a bird even A lithium battery is going to get chopped up and spit out the rear of the engine - if it manages to get in the intake to begin with, which is a huge if. There's ZERO chance any of that lithium would stick around long enough to cause a 'fire', whatever that means. It's not called a 'jet' engine for nothing.

Phlarp 11y ago
How much experience do you have with the lithium polymer batteries commonly used on hobbyist drones? I've been flying for a little over a year now and personally seen some pretty gnarly LiPo failures in that time. I would _not_ want to be flying on a plane with one of those hitting the turbines. Would you?
- astrodust 11y ago
  I think the worst thing is not the fire, but what happens if the wiring gets gummed up on some blades and unbalances the engine. These things turn at a crazy number of RPM, so even a small amount of weight off-balance could cause them to vibrate and self-destruct catastrophically if it hit the right harmonic.
  - simcop2387 11y ago
    Given the speeds I'm not even sure it'd take that. The debris being sucked in I think would be enough to break/bend a blade or two which would unbalance it just as easily. Making even more debris for the rest of the engine.
    - kordless 11y ago
      Those blades are crazy tough and the battery is the least of your worries when ingesting a drone. I'd be more concerned about the motors doing the damage to the blades.
- kordless 11y ago
  Howdy! I've been flying all sorts of R/C for 25 years, so quite a bit of experience. Had them splode/catch on fire occasionally. Jet engines are quite a bit bigger than said batteries and the flows through them are sufficient to exhaust most, if not all, of the battery out the ass end before the lithium could experience thermal runaway (which is what li-ion fires are).
simcop2387 11y ago
Given that a big part of a jet engine is that there's a large series of rotors to perform the compression of the air intake as it streams in[1], and then constricts the space to get even higher compression before the combustion chamber there's a good chance of things getting stuck once the primary rotor has been damaged by something going into it. That's the primary way that birds and other debris disable a single engine. They don't usually cause a fire because they're not likely to combust/explode on being punctured or torn[2]. [1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Jet_engine.svg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Jet_engi... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJf9pJ6gOk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJf9pJ6gOk ; many more just look for lipo explode

Phlarp 11y ago

How much experience do you have with the lithium polymer batteries commonly used on hobbyist drones? I've been flying for a little over a year now and personally seen some pretty gnarly LiPo failures in that time. I would _not_ want to be flying on a plane with one of those hitting the turbines. Would you?

astrodust 11y ago
I think the worst thing is not the fire, but what happens if the wiring gets gummed up on some blades and unbalances the engine. These things turn at a crazy number of RPM, so even a small amount of weight off-balance could cause them to vibrate and self-destruct catastrophically if it hit the right harmonic.
- simcop2387 11y ago
  Given the speeds I'm not even sure it'd take that. The debris being sucked in I think would be enough to break/bend a blade or two which would unbalance it just as easily. Making even more debris for the rest of the engine.
  - kordless 11y ago
    Those blades are crazy tough and the battery is the least of your worries when ingesting a drone. I'd be more concerned about the motors doing the damage to the blades.
kordless 11y ago
Howdy! I've been flying all sorts of R/C for 25 years, so quite a bit of experience. Had them splode/catch on fire occasionally. Jet engines are quite a bit bigger than said batteries and the flows through them are sufficient to exhaust most, if not all, of the battery out the ass end before the lithium could experience thermal runaway (which is what li-ion fires are).

simcop2387 11y ago

Given that a big part of a jet engine is that there's a large series of rotors to perform the compression of the air intake as it streams in[1], and then constricts the space to get even higher compression before the combustion chamber there's a good chance of things getting stuck once the primary rotor has been damaged by something going into it. That's the primary way that birds and other debris disable a single engine. They don't usually cause a fire because they're not likely to combust/explode on being punctured or torn[2]. [1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Jet_engine.svg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Jet_engi... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJf9pJ6gOk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJf9pJ6gOk ; many more just look for lipo explode