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Here's why I (and jawngee) never used Pixate's products for my apps: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5062868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5062868

Here's why I (and jawngee) never used Pixate's products for my apps: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5062868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5062868 Given that I only make iOS apps, and that Google acquired them, I feel vindicated 916 days later.

adam12 11y ago
I wonder if they would have been acquired by Google if they had open sourced their software. Don't get me wrong - I completely understand your decision.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  > I wonder if they would have been acquired by Google if they had open sourced their software. The software [0] he complained about not having source in the old post he points to was open sourced before Google bought them. So, evidently, it wouldn't have stopped Google. [0] http://www.freestyle.org/ http://www.freestyle.org/
PStamatiou 11y ago
Except that Pixate is purely for prototyping in the design phase.. not for actually shipping a binary to the app store.
- seivan 11y ago
  That wasn't their initial product that I even paid for. Not that I minded, I actually liked their initial product until it got open sourced (but abandoned)
  - jtwebman 11y ago
    What was the initial product?
    - jrnkntl 11y ago
      CSS for iOS / Android elements Renamed to Pixate Freestyle http://www.freestyle.org/ http://www.freestyle.org/
  - hbosch 11y ago
    Then you are discussing the wrong product here.
dragonwriter 11y ago
Wait, but the thing that you wouldn't use 916 days ago was released as open source a while ago. How is your "I won't use your products because they are just binary blobs and I demand source" vindicated by Google acquiring Pixate after that?
- aaronbrethorst 11y ago
  I never noticed it was open sourced a while ago. I guess they never emailed their KS backers, or something. I raised my objections to the founders after backing their Kickstarter, and then never bothered using their software after that because I wasn't confident in the long-term survival of it. Today is literally the first time I've ever heard that this project was open sourced.
plonh 11y ago
How much is Google paying the KickStarter backers? Oh.

adam12 11y ago

I wonder if they would have been acquired by Google if they had open sourced their software. Don't get me wrong - I completely understand your decision.

dragonwriter 11y ago
> I wonder if they would have been acquired by Google if they had open sourced their software. The software [0] he complained about not having source in the old post he points to was open sourced before Google bought them. So, evidently, it wouldn't have stopped Google. [0] http://www.freestyle.org/ http://www.freestyle.org/

PStamatiou 11y ago

Except that Pixate is purely for prototyping in the design phase.. not for actually shipping a binary to the app store.

seivan 11y ago
That wasn't their initial product that I even paid for. Not that I minded, I actually liked their initial product until it got open sourced (but abandoned)
- jtwebman 11y ago
  What was the initial product?
  - jrnkntl 11y ago
    CSS for iOS / Android elements Renamed to Pixate Freestyle http://www.freestyle.org/ http://www.freestyle.org/
- hbosch 11y ago
  Then you are discussing the wrong product here.

dragonwriter 11y ago

Wait, but the thing that you wouldn't use 916 days ago was released as open source a while ago. How is your "I won't use your products because they are just binary blobs and I demand source" vindicated by Google acquiring Pixate after that?

aaronbrethorst 11y ago
I never noticed it was open sourced a while ago. I guess they never emailed their KS backers, or something. I raised my objections to the founders after backing their Kickstarter, and then never bothered using their software after that because I wasn't confident in the long-term survival of it. Today is literally the first time I've ever heard that this project was open sourced.

plonh 11y ago

How much is Google paying the KickStarter backers? Oh.