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Poorly maintained vehicles that break down while driving surprise the driver. This happens daily on public roads. Should we fine them for failing to maintain th

by feld 11y ago

Poorly maintained vehicles that break down while driving surprise the driver. This happens daily on public roads. Should we fine them for failing to maintain their vehicle to your standards? There are autonomous vehicles being tested on our roads with a failure mode of "coast to a stop". They may not even have a human inside to react to things around them. Do the operators deserve to be jailed? People modify their cars with various after-market upgrades and take them onto the highway. If the car fails, do they deserve to be imprisoned? What a slippery slope! Driving is a risk. The most deadly risk you will take each day. Drive defensively, don't be a statistic.

danielweber 11y ago
Failure to maintain your vehicle such that it puts other people at risk is against the law. The people testing self-driving cars had IRBs that go over their test cases. Do these guys even know what IRB stands for?
- feld 11y ago
  and it's rarely prosecuted.
Natsu 11y ago
> Should we fine them for failing to maintain their vehicle to your standards? You might want to review existing laws. See, e.g.: Georgia: http://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-40/chapter-8/article-1/part-1/40-8-7 http://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-40/chapter-8/... "O.C.G.A. 40-8-7 (2010) 40-8-7. Driving unsafe or improperly equipped vehicle; punishment for violations of chapter generally; vehicle inspection by law enforcement officer without warrant" Ohio: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4513.02 http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4513.02 "(A) No person shall drive or move, or cause or knowingly permit to be driven or moved, on any highway any vehicle or combination of vehicles which is in such unsafe condition as to endanger any person." California: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=veh&group=23001-24000&file=24000-24018 http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=veh&gr... "24002. (a) It is unlawful to operate any vehicle or combination of vehicles which is in an unsafe condition, or which is not safely loaded, and which presents an immediate safety hazard." This research appears to have happened in Missouri, where it's harder to find the actual laws on the subject. That said, I did find this: https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/PatrolDivisions/MVI/documents/MVIRegulationsManual.pdf https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/PatrolDivisions/MV... which tends to imply that there are laws to this effect that I cannot easily locate via internet searches.

by feld 11y ago

danielweber 11y ago

Failure to maintain your vehicle such that it puts other people at risk is against the law. The people testing self-driving cars had IRBs that go over their test cases. Do these guys even know what IRB stands for?

feld 11y ago
and it's rarely prosecuted.

Natsu 11y ago

> Should we fine them for failing to maintain their vehicle to your standards? You might want to review existing laws. See, e.g.: Georgia: http://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-40/chapter-8/article-1/part-1/40-8-7 http://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-40/chapter-8/... "O.C.G.A. 40-8-7 (2010) 40-8-7. Driving unsafe or improperly equipped vehicle; punishment for violations of chapter generally; vehicle inspection by law enforcement officer without warrant" Ohio: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4513.02 http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4513.02 "(A) No person shall drive or move, or cause or knowingly permit to be driven or moved, on any highway any vehicle or combination of vehicles which is in such unsafe condition as to endanger any person." California: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=veh&group=23001-24000&file=24000-24018 http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=veh&gr... "24002. (a) It is unlawful to operate any vehicle or combination of vehicles which is in an unsafe condition, or which is not safely loaded, and which presents an immediate safety hazard." This research appears to have happened in Missouri, where it's harder to find the actual laws on the subject. That said, I did find this: https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/PatrolDivisions/MVI/documents/MVIRegulationsManual.pdf https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/PatrolDivisions/MV... which tends to imply that there are laws to this effect that I cannot easily locate via internet searches.