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Wow. Just because you are savvy enough to do the research does not make you a researcher. These two really need to rethink the way they are "testing" this and
by hoopism 11y ago
Wow. Just because you are savvy enough to do the research does not make you a researcher. These two really need to rethink the way they are "testing" this and perhaps educate themselves on ethics in research.
Their judgement collectively was worse than a pack of 5th graders with high grade fireworks.
- shkkmo 11y agoThey could certainly have done a much better job of demoing this safely. On the other hand, I'd rather that they be doing this work with the way they did it than not at all...
- hoopism 11y ago"On the other hand, I'd rather that they be doing this work with the way they did it than not at all..." That's such a stupid tradeoff. Putting it as an either/or is silly. Doing this safely and demonstrating the alarming conclusion are not mutually exclusive. I'd go as far as to say that the way they demonstrated this actually diminishes the message of the danger of this exploit and put's the focus on their stupidity.
- shkkmo 11y ago> I'd go as far as to say that the way they demonstrated this actually diminishes the message of the danger of this exploit and put's the focus on their stupidity. Doing it the way they did clearly increases the impact of their message. To believe otherwise belies ignorance of the way information gets spread in our culture. The question is only if the increased impact was properly balanced against the increased risk.
- jblow 11y agoI don't think you understand. Anyone in the world can do this. Right now. Any time.
- hoopism 11y agoAnyone could shoot up a public place... should amateur researches be showing up in malls with firearms to test preparedness? This case is even worse the the one I mentioned as there is a really easy way to safely demonstrate this exploit.
- jblow 11y agoIf it were not demonstrated under real conditions, the car companies would just say "this was a fake test not representative of real-world conditions, isn't that true Mr. Journalist?" and the journalist would have to admit that that was true and then they would say "Under real-world conditions our cars are safe; customers have nothing to worry about." This has been their playbook about everything for a long time so I don't know why you think it would be different in this case.
- gortok 11y agoI don't mind that it was demonstrated under real world conditions; I mind that no safety precautions were taken, like, you know: - Contact the police and let them know this experiment will be conducted; and ask for police support - Conduct this experiment on a closed road
- ohitsdom 11y agoThere is no way a "not real-world conditions" argument could be made if this same test was done on a test track. No automaker would even try it because it would generate even more bad press. The "researchers" did the test on a public, in-use highway for better press/cool factor. Completely irresponsible.
- jblow 11y agoLook at what Toyota did with the whole unintentional acceleration thing. About as irresponsible as you can get.
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