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> Is this a joke? I see you're new to Dyson's business model. Keep in mind, these are the guys who make a $400 fan in a niche full of $10 competitors.

Someone1234 11y ago
And ignoring how it looks for a second, the Dyson Air Multiplier is kind of mediocre anyway (and VERY mediocre for the price point). The rest of the electric fan market has shifted over the last ten-ish years to noise-efficiency. Meaning the most air movement for the least amount of noise. So we've seen new blade shapes, smarter motor designs, enclosures that attempt to dampen the noise, and so on. And Dyson's Air Multiplier could, in theory, have done well in that competition but they care more about form than function, so they stuck this tiny little motor with a higher RPM in the thing which has made it extremely loud for the amount of air that it can move. In terms of noise-efficiency, it sounds as loud as fans from the 1990s and before.
- zimpenfish 11y ago
  Apropos of nothing, Muji's USB desktop fan has contra-rotating blades and is amazingly quiet for the amount of air it can shift.
- freehunter 11y ago
  Yeah, it's getting hard to find a fan that I can run at night to cover the noise of the city. Every time I buy a fan, it's quieter and quieter, but I like loud fans to help me sleep.
  - noir_lord 11y ago
    Punch holes in the blades with a drill. That and (perhaps) making the pattern asymmetric should restore the noise.
  - Someone1234 11y ago
    No sarcasm: Look into Nursery Sleep Soothers. While they sell white noise machines targeted at adults, they're all terrible because it is a niche market. But in the nursery sleep soothers category you can find a bunch of high quality white noise machines for a good price. For example the Marpac Dohm has an actual spinning fan inside designed to generate white noise. But you can find digital noise simulators who can do: industrial sounds, water, fan noise, nature, and so on.
    - dublinben 11y ago
      Is the Marpac Dohm actually targeted at nurseries? I've seen it quite frequently in medical waiting rooms. It helps provide privacy for those having sensitive conversations behind flimsy doors.
      - Someone1234 11y ago
        On Amazon at least they sell it under Baby Sleep Soothers and Sound Therapy Products.
    - knodi123 11y ago
      I bought one for our baby's room, but when I decided I wanted one for myself, I hit on a much cheaper solution; I just turn my clock radio to an empty station and crank the volume.
- Demiurge 11y ago
  Is there a good website that rates fans by power/noise/price? I don't actually care about the price much, I really want a quieter fan that won't make me turn up the music too loud to hear the details and wake anyone up.
kmfrk 11y ago
My mom once got a Dyson vacuum cleaner. I can only assume Dyson pivoted from making a jet engine.
- stuaxo 11y ago
  It's the only one where vacuuming becomes kind of fun because it actually works
- knodi123 11y ago
  I bought a dyson. To test it, I vacuumed with my old unit, and then immediately vacuumed with my dyson. surprise, I managed to completely fill the canister. they're noisy and expensive, but they work really well.
higherpurpose 11y ago
Sounds just like Beats. Maybe Apple should buy them out and make gold lights for $6,000.
logfromblammo 11y ago
This is how engineers make money in an environment where most people do not understand how engineering works. Dyson is just something of a rarity in that he's selling consumer devices to the public, rather than defense hardware to governments. Everyone in on the "design" scam relies very heavily on the assumption that the more expensive goods work better than cheaper ones. As previously mentioned, there is no rational case to be made for buying one of these. If my laptop computer lasted up to 37 years, I would likely still replace it after no more than 5, with another that cost half as much both in terms of initial investment and operating cost, while still offering greater capabilities. I'd just take that $600 I might have spent on a lamp, buy Cree stock instead.

Someone1234 11y ago

And ignoring how it looks for a second, the Dyson Air Multiplier is kind of mediocre anyway (and VERY mediocre for the price point). The rest of the electric fan market has shifted over the last ten-ish years to noise-efficiency. Meaning the most air movement for the least amount of noise. So we've seen new blade shapes, smarter motor designs, enclosures that attempt to dampen the noise, and so on. And Dyson's Air Multiplier could, in theory, have done well in that competition but they care more about form than function, so they stuck this tiny little motor with a higher RPM in the thing which has made it extremely loud for the amount of air that it can move. In terms of noise-efficiency, it sounds as loud as fans from the 1990s and before.

zimpenfish 11y ago
Apropos of nothing, Muji's USB desktop fan has contra-rotating blades and is amazingly quiet for the amount of air it can shift.
freehunter 11y ago
Yeah, it's getting hard to find a fan that I can run at night to cover the noise of the city. Every time I buy a fan, it's quieter and quieter, but I like loud fans to help me sleep.
- noir_lord 11y ago
  Punch holes in the blades with a drill. That and (perhaps) making the pattern asymmetric should restore the noise.
- Someone1234 11y ago
  No sarcasm: Look into Nursery Sleep Soothers. While they sell white noise machines targeted at adults, they're all terrible because it is a niche market. But in the nursery sleep soothers category you can find a bunch of high quality white noise machines for a good price. For example the Marpac Dohm has an actual spinning fan inside designed to generate white noise. But you can find digital noise simulators who can do: industrial sounds, water, fan noise, nature, and so on.
  - dublinben 11y ago
    Is the Marpac Dohm actually targeted at nurseries? I've seen it quite frequently in medical waiting rooms. It helps provide privacy for those having sensitive conversations behind flimsy doors.
    - Someone1234 11y ago
      On Amazon at least they sell it under Baby Sleep Soothers and Sound Therapy Products.
  - knodi123 11y ago
    I bought one for our baby's room, but when I decided I wanted one for myself, I hit on a much cheaper solution; I just turn my clock radio to an empty station and crank the volume.
Demiurge 11y ago
Is there a good website that rates fans by power/noise/price? I don't actually care about the price much, I really want a quieter fan that won't make me turn up the music too loud to hear the details and wake anyone up.

kmfrk 11y ago

My mom once got a Dyson vacuum cleaner. I can only assume Dyson pivoted from making a jet engine.

stuaxo 11y ago
It's the only one where vacuuming becomes kind of fun because it actually works
knodi123 11y ago
I bought a dyson. To test it, I vacuumed with my old unit, and then immediately vacuumed with my dyson. surprise, I managed to completely fill the canister. they're noisy and expensive, but they work really well.

higherpurpose 11y ago

Sounds just like Beats. Maybe Apple should buy them out and make gold lights for $6,000.

logfromblammo 11y ago

This is how engineers make money in an environment where most people do not understand how engineering works. Dyson is just something of a rarity in that he's selling consumer devices to the public, rather than defense hardware to governments. Everyone in on the "design" scam relies very heavily on the assumption that the more expensive goods work better than cheaper ones. As previously mentioned, there is no rational case to be made for buying one of these. If my laptop computer lasted up to 37 years, I would likely still replace it after no more than 5, with another that cost half as much both in terms of initial investment and operating cost, while still offering greater capabilities. I'd just take that $600 I might have spent on a lamp, buy Cree stock instead.