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My father, who is a cardiologist, has all these stories about how they keep trying to prove that caffeine and coffee in general are bad for you, bad for your he

by mjfl 11y ago

My father, who is a cardiologist, has all these stories about how they keep trying to prove that caffeine and coffee in general are bad for you, bad for your heart specifically. But the more they try to prove it is bad, the more they keep finding that caffeine is actually good for you and reduces the risk of heart disease. I'll have to ask him for specific studies. Now the sugar they put in the coffee, that's a different story...

Frenchgeek 11y ago
On the other hand, it is very easy to prove that a lack of caffeine make me very bad for everyone else.
pyre 11y ago
> caffeine and coffee in general Why coffee specifically? Other things contain caffeine. Tea, for example.
- erkkie 11y ago
  Tea also contains L-theanine which modulates the effects of caffeine: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10737183 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10737183
  - provemewrong 11y ago
    True, but in miniscule amounts. Significantly lower than the doses taken by the people who use L-theanine as a supplement. Also L-theanine to caffeine ratio is all wrong. >Why pick pure l-theanine and caffeine over green or black tea? >Most studies done on the l-theanine-caffeine combination have a l-theanine to caffeine ratio that isn't consistent with ratios you would expect from most teas. The studies used about twice as much l-theanine as caffeine by weight. The ratio found in most teas is reversed, with the possible exception of high quality green tea. [1] [1]: http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/wiki/faq http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/wiki/faq
    - veidr 11y ago
      Which is why I drink high quality green tea.
- rrss1122 11y ago
  I would guess because coffee is so widely consumed in the US.
aa10ll 11y ago
Coffee (but not necessarily caffeine) has been linked to elevated homocysteine which is associated with cardiovascular disease. One such study: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/6/1244.full http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/6/1244.full

by mjfl 11y ago

Frenchgeek 11y ago

On the other hand, it is very easy to prove that a lack of caffeine make me very bad for everyone else.

pyre 11y ago

> caffeine and coffee in general Why coffee specifically? Other things contain caffeine. Tea, for example.

erkkie 11y ago
Tea also contains L-theanine which modulates the effects of caffeine: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10737183 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10737183
- provemewrong 11y ago
  True, but in miniscule amounts. Significantly lower than the doses taken by the people who use L-theanine as a supplement. Also L-theanine to caffeine ratio is all wrong. >Why pick pure l-theanine and caffeine over green or black tea? >Most studies done on the l-theanine-caffeine combination have a l-theanine to caffeine ratio that isn't consistent with ratios you would expect from most teas. The studies used about twice as much l-theanine as caffeine by weight. The ratio found in most teas is reversed, with the possible exception of high quality green tea. [1] [1]: http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/wiki/faq http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/wiki/faq
  - veidr 11y ago
    Which is why I drink high quality green tea.
rrss1122 11y ago
I would guess because coffee is so widely consumed in the US.

aa10ll 11y ago

Coffee (but not necessarily caffeine) has been linked to elevated homocysteine which is associated with cardiovascular disease. One such study: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/6/1244.full http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/6/1244.full