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Absolutely, the owner of this website could be sued for slander. If everything in this story is true then just sue Cecile because she obviously committed fraud,

by aikah 11y ago

Absolutely, the owner of this website could be sued for slander. If everything in this story is true then just sue Cecile because she obviously committed fraud, the case should be a slam dunk. Then expose her once she has been sentenced to prison. edit: Cecile's website is a joke : http://world-glance.com/ http://world-glance.com/ Does it look like a serious VC to anybody? there is absolutely no information whatsoever. Remember the legend about about nigerian scammers? they make it so obvious it is a scam to screen people, that website feels a bit like that.

loceng 11y ago
Slander is for false statements, it doesn't look like these are false.
fleitz 11y ago
That would presuppose Celine has money to afford lawyers, if she does, that would be the point to recover the funds, and/or countersue for fraud.
declan 11y ago
> sue Cecile... Then expose her once she has been sentenced to prison. First, if you sue someone, it's a civil action, not a criminal prosecution. Second, if any statements are defamatory, they would be libel, not slander. Third, truth is an absolute defense against libel claims. (And just for completeness, the U.S. does not have criminal libel laws.)
- _delirium 11y ago
  > the U.S. does not have criminal libel laws Some states do have criminal-libel laws, though there isn't a federal one. See: http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/criminal-libel-statutes-state-by-state http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/criminal-libel-statutes-...
  - declan 11y ago
    Quite right. I should have been more clear: Criminal libel laws may still be in the statute books, much like laws may still exist requiring someone carrying a red flag to walk in front of horseless carriages. But we should expect prosecutions under criminal libel laws to fail because of the modern interpretation of the First Amendment (and state constitutional protections that may be broader). For instance a court in the 1990s struck down Montana's criminal libel law as unconstitutional: https://casetext.com/case/state-v-helfrich-1 https://casetext.com/case/state-v-helfrich-1 But as far as I know it is still on the books.
hluska 11y ago
Between: a) absolutely horrible, meaningless copy. b) A very poorly designed website. c) a very weird photo of gazelle which appears to have been taken from aliexpress.com (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Animal-Gazelle-2-Poster-3-Sizes-Silk-Fabric-Canvas-Poster-Print/32366799006.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Animal-Gazelle-2-Poster-3-Siz...) d) a host shared by another 18,000 websites (according to Bing) This company genuinely does not look real. I understand that the writer would be extremely excited by the prospect of a $4m investment, but I also feel like he should have done a little more due diligence. Based on what I see, I can't imagine genuinely expecting to receive $4m from this firm...
- hackaflocka 11y ago
  Hi there -- please share how one can find out how many websites are sharing a host via Bing. Thanks!
  - icelancer 11y ago
    Just use DNSstuff. Her site is simply a branded Wordpress.com account. http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=cecileortlieb.com http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=c...
    - hluska 11y ago
      Two things. First, cecileortlieb.com is not actually Cecile's website - it is the website that hosted that article which claims that she is a scammer. Cecile claims to be with world-glance.com. He site would be here: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=world-glance.com http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=w... Second, dnsstuff is great - I haven't used it before, but I have it bookmarked now.
  - hluska 11y ago
    Hi there; I don't know if Bing's numbers are completely accurate and you may find better ways to get this information (dnsstuff.com is sure useful). In this case, I was looking into world-glance.com so I will use that website as an example. 1) ping world-glance.com - this shows an IP address of 94.136.40.15 2) Go to bing.com - search for 'IP:94.136.40.15' (without the quotes) It will show 18,800 results. I hope that this helps...:)

by aikah 11y ago

loceng 11y ago

Slander is for false statements, it doesn't look like these are false.

fleitz 11y ago

That would presuppose Celine has money to afford lawyers, if she does, that would be the point to recover the funds, and/or countersue for fraud.

declan 11y ago

> sue Cecile... Then expose her once she has been sentenced to prison. First, if you sue someone, it's a civil action, not a criminal prosecution. Second, if any statements are defamatory, they would be libel, not slander. Third, truth is an absolute defense against libel claims. (And just for completeness, the U.S. does not have criminal libel laws.)

_delirium 11y ago
> the U.S. does not have criminal libel laws Some states do have criminal-libel laws, though there isn't a federal one. See: http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/criminal-libel-statutes-state-by-state http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/criminal-libel-statutes-...
- declan 11y ago
  Quite right. I should have been more clear: Criminal libel laws may still be in the statute books, much like laws may still exist requiring someone carrying a red flag to walk in front of horseless carriages. But we should expect prosecutions under criminal libel laws to fail because of the modern interpretation of the First Amendment (and state constitutional protections that may be broader). For instance a court in the 1990s struck down Montana's criminal libel law as unconstitutional: https://casetext.com/case/state-v-helfrich-1 https://casetext.com/case/state-v-helfrich-1 But as far as I know it is still on the books.

hluska 11y ago

Between: a) absolutely horrible, meaningless copy. b) A very poorly designed website. c) a very weird photo of gazelle which appears to have been taken from aliexpress.com (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Animal-Gazelle-2-Poster-3-Sizes-Silk-Fabric-Canvas-Poster-Print/32366799006.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Animal-Gazelle-2-Poster-3-Siz...) d) a host shared by another 18,000 websites (according to Bing) This company genuinely does not look real. I understand that the writer would be extremely excited by the prospect of a $4m investment, but I also feel like he should have done a little more due diligence. Based on what I see, I can't imagine genuinely expecting to receive $4m from this firm...

hackaflocka 11y ago
Hi there -- please share how one can find out how many websites are sharing a host via Bing. Thanks!
- icelancer 11y ago
  Just use DNSstuff. Her site is simply a branded Wordpress.com account. http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=cecileortlieb.com http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=c...
  - hluska 11y ago
    Two things. First, cecileortlieb.com is not actually Cecile's website - it is the website that hosted that article which claims that she is a scammer. Cecile claims to be with world-glance.com. He site would be here: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=world-glance.com http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=w... Second, dnsstuff is great - I haven't used it before, but I have it bookmarked now.
- hluska 11y ago
  Hi there; I don't know if Bing's numbers are completely accurate and you may find better ways to get this information (dnsstuff.com is sure useful). In this case, I was looking into world-glance.com so I will use that website as an example. 1) ping world-glance.com - this shows an IP address of 94.136.40.15 2) Go to bing.com - search for 'IP:94.136.40.15' (without the quotes) It will show 18,800 results. I hope that this helps...:)