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You don't get harassed at borders but you have lost national sovereignty. So it's one freedom for another - and in the case of the EU many would argue that it i
by forensic 17y ago
You don't get harassed at borders but you have lost national sovereignty. So it's one freedom for another - and in the case of the EU many would argue that it is a net loss of freedom.
- viraptor 17y agoIt doesn't really feel like it. For typical people nothing changed. The laws were changed a bit so that they're more unified and the market forces work a bit differently. But sovereignty itself? No. Every country still has authority over its own territory. It's not independent authority, but was it ever? (in practice, that is) The countries are still divided much more clearly than the states - in every way I can think of.
- forensic 17y agoI'm not saying it's a bad thing - most people are happy to trade their freedom for some convenience, money, and security. You don't notice the difference because the freedoms you have lost were ones you rarely exercised.
- anigbrowl 17y agoNo, we have voluntarily pooled our national sovereignty by treaty in some areas, and enjoy an increase in individual freedoms as a direct result. This is quite different from what you describe.
- forensic 17y agoYou voluntarily gave up your national sovereignty, which is a voluntary loss of freedom. There are other good things in life besides freedom. I'm not saying the EU is a bad idea. I'm saying that when the UK joined the EU it gave up a good number of freedoms it previously had - admittedly those particular freedoms were not considered valuable. Such as the freedom to control trade.
- mahmud 17y agoWhat is "national sovereignty" but the loss of our regional, state rights, and that too, a loss of our communal rights in villages.