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"Sounds like blaming to me." I thought we were arguing about whether he cares about looking foolish. Of course he's blaming them. There's reason to blame them

"Sounds like blaming to me." I thought we were arguing about whether he cares about looking foolish. Of course he's blaming them. There's reason to blame them. Regardless of what he did or didn't do, they screwed up. In fact I think he's being very restrained and humble taking 50% of the blame. I'd be fucking pissed if that happened to me. Even if I restored from backups in 30 minutes (extremely optimistic). "if you're an advice-giver who's been shown to not follow his own advice on backups, don't compound it by being an advice giver who doesn't follow his own advice on humility." Again, the humility he was referring to was to assume first that it was your fault until you determine otherwise for sure. What's that got to do with them screwing up? You're basically saying: if I act holier-than-thou and advocate backups, then Slicehost or Amazon can give me crappy service because I'm not allowed to 'blame' them or mention how they suck. Which is really weird. (I feel for the guy. I'm sitting here yakking because I can't connect to my EC2 slice for the last n hours.)

pvg 17y ago
Heh, we are absolutely going to validate the 'comment value drops exponentially with nesting' rule. I didn't say he deserves crappy service or that his provider didn't screw up by firing his VM into Neptune. What I'm saying is (in 17 different ways, at this point) - if you are a vocal advocate but don't actually practice or believe what you preach, you're not really an advocate or useful commentator but a hack. When circumstances (that incidentally and in part happen to be someone else's fault) expose you as somewhat of a hack, it's a little uncouth to be pointing fingers at others for their much more minor screw-ups. Being a hack is bigger screw-up than accidentally (or through negligence) firing someone's VM into Neptune, that's all.

pvg 17y ago

Heh, we are absolutely going to validate the 'comment value drops exponentially with nesting' rule. I didn't say he deserves crappy service or that his provider didn't screw up by firing his VM into Neptune. What I'm saying is (in 17 different ways, at this point) - if you are a vocal advocate but don't actually practice or believe what you preach, you're not really an advocate or useful commentator but a hack. When circumstances (that incidentally and in part happen to be someone else's fault) expose you as somewhat of a hack, it's a little uncouth to be pointing fingers at others for their much more minor screw-ups. Being a hack is bigger screw-up than accidentally (or through negligence) firing someone's VM into Neptune, that's all.