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So I've been in the OpenStack community for a while [3+ years] (http://stackalytics.com/?metric=commits http://stackalytics.com/?metric=commits yes that's me do

So I've been in the OpenStack community for a while [3+ years] (http://stackalytics.com/?metric=commits http://stackalytics.com/?metric=commits yes that's me down there in the pie chart); and I'd like to answer any questions anyone has... Yes the OpenStack community isn't perfect (but I've heard the same thing about other communities, so meh). Something I've found interesting to read over: - https://lwn.net/Articles/647524/ https://lwn.net/Articles/647524/ Overall, no the community isn't perfect, yes there are issues, yes it burns some people out, but software isn't rainbows and butterflies after all.

geofft 11y ago
> Overall, no the community isn't perfect, yes there are issues, yes it burns some people out, but software isn't rainbows and butterflies after all. Are people trying to make things better? If so, how? Software isn't rainbows and butterflies, but it shouldn't be endless floods and caterpillars, either.
- harlowja 11y ago
  Yes, I think they are getting better (at what rate, I can not measure, but forward progress IMHO). One example; the project/group I work in (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo) basically is a bunch of well-known people in the software community (author of sqlalchemy included, authors of python books, myself...). Libraries I (and others) work on are trying to help solve the tech. debt of the various projects (good practices and all that). So I think this has helped make things better... Obviously progression is relative and certain projects in OpenStack move at different rates (depending on complexity, vendor involvement, or lack of vendor involvement, number and quality of developers doing reviews/commits...). There's always work to be done (and yes I know the operators pain, I work at yahoo! and sit right next to the operators running our OpenStack based clouds, vm and baremetal...); things aren't always easy but then what software really is in the end...

geofft 11y ago

> Overall, no the community isn't perfect, yes there are issues, yes it burns some people out, but software isn't rainbows and butterflies after all. Are people trying to make things better? If so, how? Software isn't rainbows and butterflies, but it shouldn't be endless floods and caterpillars, either.

harlowja 11y ago
Yes, I think they are getting better (at what rate, I can not measure, but forward progress IMHO). One example; the project/group I work in (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo) basically is a bunch of well-known people in the software community (author of sqlalchemy included, authors of python books, myself...). Libraries I (and others) work on are trying to help solve the tech. debt of the various projects (good practices and all that). So I think this has helped make things better... Obviously progression is relative and certain projects in OpenStack move at different rates (depending on complexity, vendor involvement, or lack of vendor involvement, number and quality of developers doing reviews/commits...). There's always work to be done (and yes I know the operators pain, I work at yahoo! and sit right next to the operators running our OpenStack based clouds, vm and baremetal...); things aren't always easy but then what software really is in the end...