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I use DKIM and have Reverse DNS + SPF and gmail likes my email just fine. However, previous to setting all that up gmail would commonly mark my messages as spa
by mordocai 11y ago
I use DKIM and have Reverse DNS + SPF and gmail likes my email just fine.
However, previous to setting all that up gmail would commonly mark my messages as spam. I haven't tested it in the last few days.
- cmdrfred 11y agoI have all of that and it took about 2 weeks of people pulling my messages out of spam for it to work smoothly.
- kbenson 11y agoWere they set up initially, or after you noticed problems? I wonder if prior messages routed to the spam folder that people haven't marked as non-spam count against you for a certain prior period.
- cmdrfred 11y agoI added them after I noticed problems really. Postfix and Dovecot have somewhat of a learning curve (I started up and trashed a few VM's before I got it right). I ended up using IRedMail, the defaults are pretty much Gmail ready. I don't know about prior messages counting against you, given what I've seen it seems to makes sense. Without insider info we can only speculate.
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- kbenson 11y agoWhich is just as well, since even if you can set up a mail daemon, if you can't set up the rest of that, you have no place running a mail server.
- fweespeech 11y agoAnd the moment someone accidentally clicks the SPAM button you'll find yourself with weeks of pain on a low volume mail server. Because, as an individual, you won't qualify for their FBL service and "mysteriously" you'll have weeks of everyone saying you end up in their spam folder.
- kyrra 11y agoThe Gmail team recently launched[0] PostMaster tools[1]. I'm not sure if everyone has access, but maybe it would help? [0] http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-mail-you-want-not-spam-you-dont.html http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-mail-you-want-not-... [1] https://postmaster.google.com/ https://postmaster.google.com/
- nmjenkins 11y agoYou have to be a high volume sender with a good reputation (low spam reports) to get access to these tools.
- scintill76 11y agoAnd they don't tell you whether you meet those criteria, until after you go to the trouble of logging in and serving a DNS TXT record for ownership verification, as I just found. Granted, I didn't expect to qualify, but it would have been nice if they'd told me up front.
- blfr 11y agoYes, but at least they're using the same verification mechanism as elsewhere so if you have already added the domain to Google Webmaster for example under the same Google Account, it will be automatically verified.
- massaman_yams 11y agoThe reputation requirements here are a very low bar; as far as I can tell it's effectively "don't be a botnet".
- Lunatic666 11y agoI had exactly the same setup, but I had to create 10 fake Gmail accounts, add the email address to the address book and flag several emails as "not spam" before it was useable. Google Mail just ignores the fact that there are private people who want to have their own mail server to be independent from Gmail.