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I'm very surprised parent-of-parent got so downvoted; I agree the point isn't very rigorous (as parent argues), but parent-of-parent isn't particularly less rig
by choppaface 11y ago
I'm very surprised parent-of-parent got so downvoted; I agree the point isn't very rigorous (as parent argues), but parent-of-parent isn't particularly less rigorous or more incendiary than average HN comments.
There are plenty of solid reasons to doubt Google given the points that parent-of-parent draws:
* Android was purchased and has plenty of product sharp edges. E.g. there are several ways to send texts. There's the issue of fragmentation. The new Google Photos has embarrassing auto-tags for African-Americans. Google has a solid whole product right now, but so did RIM. They will need to push really hard on projects like Tango and Project Fi to compete in future markets.
* Nest is garnering a reputation for being untrustworthy due to absurd bugs like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpsMkLaEiOY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpsMkLaEiOY
* Google is the most published self-driving car manufacturer, but w/out a shipping product they aren't clearly a leader. All early reviews of their car indicate that it's currently too conservative. There's also an issue: do people actually want the whole product? It looks like Tesla and Mercedes will very likely beat Google to market with core self-driving features.
I agree with parent-of-parent that Google appears to be trying to position itself more aggressively in many consumer product markets. Google is an excellent technology company, but most of their products have been niche hits. There's plenty of room for their competitors to leverage better customer relationships to own good chunks of the markets that Google seeks to own.
- Oletros 11y ago> Android was purchased and has plenty of product sharp edges. E.g. there are several ways to send texts. And how is this a sharp edge? > There's the issue of fragmentation. July 2015 and still talking about fragmentation? What problem do you think is fragmentation? > The new Google Photos has embarrassing auto-tags for African-Americans. ONE case and has nothing to do with Android > Google has a solid whole product right now, but so did RIM. And this can be said about Apple or Microsoft
- bitmapbrother 11y ago>Android was purchased and has plenty of product sharp edges. It was purchased 10 years ago. What's left of the original purchase exists in name only. >There's the issue of fragmentation Speaking of fragmentation. How well do new iOS apps work on older iOS devices like the iPhone 4? I'm guessing not very well and probably not at all. App fragmentation on iOS is the real problem. >The new Google Photos has embarrassing auto-tags for African-Americans. It's an algorithm. It made a mistake and it learned from it. >Nest is garnering a reputation for being untrustworthy. Hasn't this been addressed by Nest?