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It's such a difficult question. I've read the mozilla bug thread and it's pretty obvious to me that he is simply stonewalling legitimate suggestions. In a pre
by mikekchar 11y ago
It's such a difficult question. I've read the mozilla bug thread and it's pretty obvious to me that he is simply stonewalling legitimate suggestions. In a previous life I've implemented STUN, TURN and ICE and I think the suggestion to allow users to be prompted when it is used is a reasonable one. Enabling it by default is irresponsible IMHO. Having a big global switch would make it practically useless (unless you are IPV6 or VPN usage only) because you would constantly be turning it off and on. The only other reasonable option is to enable it with a whitelist of sites, but that's almost certainly unapproachable by most users.
However, there is a big difference between a "my way or the highway", holier than thou, ass hat developer and someone who is intentionally breaking stuff. Anybody who has tried to use the GNOME desktop using multiple languages that require an IME will know that this kind of stuff happens all the time. No amount of discussion can dissuade some developers from unthinkingly rejecting ideas that aren't their own. Arguments like "I can't use my computer anymore" often don't trump "It will make the design messy". What chance does "We need to warn users about leakage of private information in ways they have no hope of understanding" have?
I'd be pretty uncomfortable tracking people's past associations and deciding what things they are or are not allowed to work on. It reminds me of a McCarthy style blacklist and no matter what the risk, I think that's unacceptible.
I think we need to ask ourselves: why does software freedom exist? My personal answer is so that I don't have to worry about whether someone is intentionally breaking stuff or whether they are breaking stuff because they are stubborn (or stupid -- though the person in question does not strike me as being stupid). We can never force people to act the way we wish them to act, but at least we can provide another option.
- pdkl95 11y agoBasing decisions only on past associations is something to be avoided, but that this particular case is not just about the past: much of the complaint is about the current issue involving the stonewalling that you mentioned. The past associations become relevant when they directly affect a current situation.