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russell_h 11y ago
Really curious if you can speak to any internal politics around advocating for encrypting more communications while much of the executive branch is advocating against that. Is 18F sufficiently independent, or this project sufficiently below the radar that it just isn't an issue?
- dangerlibrary 11y ago
  Entirely different worlds. People think "The Federal Government" is a monolith, and they could not be more mistaken. It is a collection of individual entities, operating largely independently and often at odds with one another. 18F is a different entity with a different set of goals from the law enforcement (FBI/DEA/etc.) and intelligence (NSA/CIA/GeoInt) agencies. In any case, it's also different parts of the tech stack - encrypting everything over the wire with HTTPS is fine so long as the underlying encryption is weak and/or the NSA have a set of keys. The FBI can always just issue a national security letter to the party with whom you are communicating.
  - konklone 11y ago
    > People think "The Federal Government" is a monolith, and they could not be more mistaken. It is a collection of individual entities, operating largely independently and often at odds with one another. That's definitely an accurate description of the US federal government.
- konklone 11y ago
  > Is 18F sufficiently independent, or this project sufficiently below the radar that it just isn't an issue? Nothing below the radar about it: https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/06/08/https-everywhere-government https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/06/08/https-everywhere-...
karmicthreat 11y ago
What sort of experience is 18F looking for? Mostly senior devs or a range?
colinbartlett 11y ago
I watched all of this and was thrilled to see this kind of content from the federal government. THANK YOU very much! I have been on a personal crusade of sorts insisting on encryption everywhere. When I come across large sites that don't support any encryption (I am looking at you, Squarespace), I struggle with content to send them to prove my point but this will do nicely.
gorgak 11y ago
so is this part of the US government program to endear themselves to hackers after the er snowden ahem stuff? we are not stupid you know. the US government has no credibility left, there must be a little part of you that realises this. please. give up your job, and go do something useful. thankyou.
tux1968 11y ago
Very useful content. But fwiw, the speaker in the video has a very funny pronunciation of panacea :)

russell_h 11y ago

Really curious if you can speak to any internal politics around advocating for encrypting more communications while much of the executive branch is advocating against that. Is 18F sufficiently independent, or this project sufficiently below the radar that it just isn't an issue?

dangerlibrary 11y ago
Entirely different worlds. People think "The Federal Government" is a monolith, and they could not be more mistaken. It is a collection of individual entities, operating largely independently and often at odds with one another. 18F is a different entity with a different set of goals from the law enforcement (FBI/DEA/etc.) and intelligence (NSA/CIA/GeoInt) agencies. In any case, it's also different parts of the tech stack - encrypting everything over the wire with HTTPS is fine so long as the underlying encryption is weak and/or the NSA have a set of keys. The FBI can always just issue a national security letter to the party with whom you are communicating.
- konklone 11y ago
  > People think "The Federal Government" is a monolith, and they could not be more mistaken. It is a collection of individual entities, operating largely independently and often at odds with one another. That's definitely an accurate description of the US federal government.
konklone 11y ago
> Is 18F sufficiently independent, or this project sufficiently below the radar that it just isn't an issue? Nothing below the radar about it: https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/06/08/https-everywhere-government https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/06/08/https-everywhere-...

karmicthreat 11y ago

What sort of experience is 18F looking for? Mostly senior devs or a range?

colinbartlett 11y ago

I watched all of this and was thrilled to see this kind of content from the federal government. THANK YOU very much! I have been on a personal crusade of sorts insisting on encryption everywhere. When I come across large sites that don't support any encryption (I am looking at you, Squarespace), I struggle with content to send them to prove my point but this will do nicely.

gorgak 11y ago

so is this part of the US government program to endear themselves to hackers after the er snowden ahem stuff? we are not stupid you know. the US government has no credibility left, there must be a little part of you that realises this. please. give up your job, and go do something useful. thankyou.

tux1968 11y ago

Very useful content. But fwiw, the speaker in the video has a very funny pronunciation of panacea :)