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Thanks Pivotal, Hello Redis Labs

347 points by djanowski 11y ago

jacques_chester 11y ago
A great loss for those of us inside the Pivotal tent. Not surprising, though, given the focus RedisLabs has on that product (which is available on Pivotal Web Services as a marketplace service[0], hint hint). Not that Salvatore can't still come visit us for a tech talk in NYC. [0] https://console.run.pivotal.io/marketplace/rediscloud https://console.run.pivotal.io/marketplace/rediscloud
- antirez 11y ago
  Thank you Jacques, if I'll visit NYC, or you Sicily, you have a paid beer for the message queues hints, and for sure a visit from me in the Pivotal offices :-)
  - jacques_chester 11y ago
    We have that London office, and soon Berlin and Dublin. Maybe I'll find an excuse to visit one of those and nip down to Sicily.
    - antirez 11y ago
      Sounds like a perfect plan!
guiomie 11y ago
How will this impact your work on Disque ?
- antirez 11y ago
  No impact, is the same setup: I'll spend the majority of my time on Redis, but with allocated bandwidth for Disque as well. After some time I may build a company about Disque perhaps, in order to scale the development process if needed. Thanks for asking this question.
kawsper 11y ago
As a happy Redis-user, and a happy RedisLabs-customer, this is interesting. > In order to not stop this magic from happening, and in order to have enough free time to spend with my family, during these years I made the decision of not starting a Redis company I really applaud this decision, and I hope it continues to work that way. Sometimes when business and opensource collides it isn't always as pleasant as it could have been.
- itamarhaber 11y ago
  I'm counting on antirez to continue making the right decisions - that's exactly the point imo.
djmollusk 11y ago
Antirez's dump1090 project is relevant to my interests.
- antirez 11y ago
  That project was short but intense! I spent just a couple of weeks on it in a very focused way, and then just did very small updates. I wish I had more time to hack on those stuff... Fortunately there is an actively developed fork.
  - Maxious 11y ago
    Indeed - the power of OSS! The two forks I've followed have been https://github.com/MalcolmRobb/dump1090 https://github.com/MalcolmRobb/dump1090 and https://github.com/mutability/dump1090 https://github.com/mutability/dump1090 but both are of course supported by contributions from a wide range of people making little tweaks to scratch their own itch!
jkot 11y ago
> I made the decision of not starting a Redis company. Congratulations, seems like another right decision. I am in similar position, I run opensource database, and I will have to start company. One-man-show does not go well with most customer.
- amenod 11y ago
  Suggestion: you might want to put terms "opensource" and "Apache license" on homepage somewhere (and a link to sources). From your comment I knew MapDB was opensource and I still spent a few minutes before finding the sources and license on github. It looks almost as if you want to stay "one-man-show". :)
  - itamarhaber 11y ago
    I'll promote your project then - http://www.mapdb.org/ http://www.mapdb.org/ - this kind of "competition" is what makes OSS so right
  - jkot 11y ago
    Good suggestions, I will do that. I do not mention name or url, since it feels bit like a spam. My project is (hopefully one day will be) competition to Redis.
    - amenod 11y ago
      Great, wish you well!
    - timtadh 11y ago
      Great project. I enjoyed reading over your code for Volumes and Stores. I have worked on similar things in Go to support B+Trees. Finding the right level of abstraction is difficult for those pieces and I am never sure that I have found it.
    - mindcrime 11y ago
      > I do not mention name or url, since it feels bit like a spam. FWIW, the culture here at HN has always been more accepting of a certain amount of self-promotion. After all, it started as "Startup News" and many of the users here are (or have been, or will be) startup founders, and everybody understands the desire / need to get the word out about your project(s). Yeah, there's a line, and it is possible to cross it, but I don't think you'll find that people mind if you just post a link and the name of your project here and there.
chatmasta 11y ago
I understand if you don't want to share, but I'm curious what the compensation package looks like for a deal like this. It's interesting because on one hand you have a lot of leverage (redis would not exist without you), but on the other hand you have none at all (redis can continue to exist without you). I wonder if the redis labs folks gave up equity, or if there is some kind of profit sharing arrangement. This is certainly a unique business scenario, so again, I'm just curious. Totally understand if you can't tell us, but I'd be interested to hear insight on this.
- antirez 11y ago
  Hello chatmasta, sorry, I can't share the details. Btw, yep makes sense to wonder about this since is a particular setup. Moreover Redis is BSD and not GPL which makes things more interesting. At the same time there are many projects that lost traction once the project leader decided to quit. So many variables indeed... So basically the value is given by a set of things. How important is for a company to have you on board, how important are your design decisions for the project, how strategic is that the project leader does not start another company instead of joining forces, and so forth... I think both parts are happy about the deal in this case.
  - Swizec 11y ago
    How much of it is just being able to use your brand and to be able to say they have you on board? Or since you probably can't answer that, does it factor into the equation at all?
    - antirez 11y ago
      Maybe all the pieces had some weight. All in all it was pretty logical, they were building a serious Redis company, I was not doing it, but was elsewhere. There was something not matching in the equation... It is logical to join forces, and it is more natural that the Redis development is sustained by the company that is focusing the most on Redis itself. So I think both Redis Labs and the Redis project itself are stronger from this simplification :-)
- 11y ago
knes 11y ago
Redislab putting their latest fund raising of $15m[0] to good use and securing their future. Good job antirez [0] http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/25/redis-labs-raises-15m-series-b-for-its-in-memory-nosql-database-service/ http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/25/redis-labs-raises-15m-serie...
cpach 11y ago
Congratulations on the new deal, 'antirez! It’s very cool that you’re able to work full time on your own BSD-licensed software.
wpeterson 11y ago
+1 for working remotely in Mountain View. As a new resident, I wish I were living somewhere else and working remotely.
- nulltype 11y ago
  Why don't you want to live in Mountain View?
  - wpeterson 11y ago
    The weather is awesome and it's a beautiful area. However it's more crowded and expensive than many cities without any of the benefits of living in a proper city. The housing and services are throttled despite an ever increasing demand of more tech workers arriving. Prices go up and quality of life goes down.

347 points by djanowski 11y ago

A great loss for those of us inside the Pivotal tent. Not surprising, though, given the focus RedisLabs has on that product (which is available on Pivotal Web Services as a marketplace service[0], hint hint). Not that Salvatore can't still come visit us for a tech talk in NYC. [0] https://console.run.pivotal.io/marketplace/rediscloud https://console.run.pivotal.io/marketplace/rediscloud

antirez 11y ago
Thank you Jacques, if I'll visit NYC, or you Sicily, you have a paid beer for the message queues hints, and for sure a visit from me in the Pivotal offices :-)
- jacques_chester 11y ago
  We have that London office, and soon Berlin and Dublin. Maybe I'll find an excuse to visit one of those and nip down to Sicily.
  - antirez 11y ago
    Sounds like a perfect plan!

guiomie 11y ago

How will this impact your work on Disque ?

antirez 11y ago
No impact, is the same setup: I'll spend the majority of my time on Redis, but with allocated bandwidth for Disque as well. After some time I may build a company about Disque perhaps, in order to scale the development process if needed. Thanks for asking this question.

kawsper 11y ago

As a happy Redis-user, and a happy RedisLabs-customer, this is interesting. > In order to not stop this magic from happening, and in order to have enough free time to spend with my family, during these years I made the decision of not starting a Redis company I really applaud this decision, and I hope it continues to work that way. Sometimes when business and opensource collides it isn't always as pleasant as it could have been.

itamarhaber 11y ago
I'm counting on antirez to continue making the right decisions - that's exactly the point imo.

djmollusk 11y ago

Antirez's dump1090 project is relevant to my interests.

antirez 11y ago
That project was short but intense! I spent just a couple of weeks on it in a very focused way, and then just did very small updates. I wish I had more time to hack on those stuff... Fortunately there is an actively developed fork.
- Maxious 11y ago
  Indeed - the power of OSS! The two forks I've followed have been https://github.com/MalcolmRobb/dump1090 https://github.com/MalcolmRobb/dump1090 and https://github.com/mutability/dump1090 https://github.com/mutability/dump1090 but both are of course supported by contributions from a wide range of people making little tweaks to scratch their own itch!

jkot 11y ago

> I made the decision of not starting a Redis company. Congratulations, seems like another right decision. I am in similar position, I run opensource database, and I will have to start company. One-man-show does not go well with most customer.

amenod 11y ago
Suggestion: you might want to put terms "opensource" and "Apache license" on homepage somewhere (and a link to sources). From your comment I knew MapDB was opensource and I still spent a few minutes before finding the sources and license on github. It looks almost as if you want to stay "one-man-show". :)
- itamarhaber 11y ago
  I'll promote your project then - http://www.mapdb.org/ http://www.mapdb.org/ - this kind of "competition" is what makes OSS so right
- jkot 11y ago
  Good suggestions, I will do that. I do not mention name or url, since it feels bit like a spam. My project is (hopefully one day will be) competition to Redis.
  - amenod 11y ago
    Great, wish you well!
  - timtadh 11y ago
    Great project. I enjoyed reading over your code for Volumes and Stores. I have worked on similar things in Go to support B+Trees. Finding the right level of abstraction is difficult for those pieces and I am never sure that I have found it.
  - mindcrime 11y ago
    > I do not mention name or url, since it feels bit like a spam. FWIW, the culture here at HN has always been more accepting of a certain amount of self-promotion. After all, it started as "Startup News" and many of the users here are (or have been, or will be) startup founders, and everybody understands the desire / need to get the word out about your project(s). Yeah, there's a line, and it is possible to cross it, but I don't think you'll find that people mind if you just post a link and the name of your project here and there.

chatmasta 11y ago

I understand if you don't want to share, but I'm curious what the compensation package looks like for a deal like this. It's interesting because on one hand you have a lot of leverage (redis would not exist without you), but on the other hand you have none at all (redis can continue to exist without you). I wonder if the redis labs folks gave up equity, or if there is some kind of profit sharing arrangement. This is certainly a unique business scenario, so again, I'm just curious. Totally understand if you can't tell us, but I'd be interested to hear insight on this.

antirez 11y ago
Hello chatmasta, sorry, I can't share the details. Btw, yep makes sense to wonder about this since is a particular setup. Moreover Redis is BSD and not GPL which makes things more interesting. At the same time there are many projects that lost traction once the project leader decided to quit. So many variables indeed... So basically the value is given by a set of things. How important is for a company to have you on board, how important are your design decisions for the project, how strategic is that the project leader does not start another company instead of joining forces, and so forth... I think both parts are happy about the deal in this case.
- Swizec 11y ago
  How much of it is just being able to use your brand and to be able to say they have you on board? Or since you probably can't answer that, does it factor into the equation at all?
  - antirez 11y ago
    Maybe all the pieces had some weight. All in all it was pretty logical, they were building a serious Redis company, I was not doing it, but was elsewhere. There was something not matching in the equation... It is logical to join forces, and it is more natural that the Redis development is sustained by the company that is focusing the most on Redis itself. So I think both Redis Labs and the Redis project itself are stronger from this simplification :-)
11y ago

knes 11y ago

Redislab putting their latest fund raising of $15m[0] to good use and securing their future. Good job antirez [0] http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/25/redis-labs-raises-15m-series-b-for-its-in-memory-nosql-database-service/ http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/25/redis-labs-raises-15m-serie...

cpach 11y ago

Congratulations on the new deal, 'antirez! It’s very cool that you’re able to work full time on your own BSD-licensed software.

wpeterson 11y ago

+1 for working remotely in Mountain View. As a new resident, I wish I were living somewhere else and working remotely.

nulltype 11y ago
Why don't you want to live in Mountain View?
- wpeterson 11y ago
  The weather is awesome and it's a beautiful area. However it's more crowded and expensive than many cities without any of the benefits of living in a proper city. The housing and services are throttled despite an ever increasing demand of more tech workers arriving. Prices go up and quality of life goes down.