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I have no knowledge about what Circle did during the downtime, but I can talk as a Clojure expert. > Is there a way to automatically identify the diffs between
by arohner 11y ago
I have no knowledge about what Circle did during the downtime, but I can talk as a Clojure expert.
> Is there a way to automatically identify the diffs between your codebase and what's running in production?
In general, no, because Clojure functions aren't serializable, so it's not possible to get the source for a running function in production. There are hacks [1] and approximations [2], but I'm not aware of anyone running them in production.
> Or did you just review repl logs to see what had changed?
Logging the REPL is possible, but it is far easier to do client side than server side, meaning every dev would have to have it installed, and it's easy to "circumvent" by e.g. SSHing into the production box and running a repl in the SSH terminal. (I don't mean circumvent negatively, just that 'install this tool on every dev IDE and use it at all times' is a somewhat fragile process during a firefight).
Also, the last time we investigated REPL-logging, it was too verbose to be convenient. Most nREPL tooling evals a significant number of expressions to e.g. grab docstrings and function arities, so it's hard to isolate the actual changes made. The difference of a single keystroke is also the difference between "eval this function" and "eval this entire file". If the developer evaled the file, you'd then need to diff the string buffer that went over the wire with the committed file, rather than just saying "oh, Alice eval'd this one fn".
If you have live-patched code that you want to keep, the simplest solution is just push it to production as part of your normal deploy process and reboot all servers, so they're guaranteed to match the committed code.
[1] https://github.com/technomancy/serializable-fn https://github.com/technomancy/serializable-fn
[2] https://github.com/gtrak/no.disassemble https://github.com/gtrak/no.disassemble
- hga 11y agoThere's no good nREPL tool that keeps a transcript of what you did??? Yuck. While I grant that I'm an old school Lisper, e.g. Maclisp, when I did some work in Clojure a while ago none of the nREPL tools looked compelling, and I did this sort of thing in an EMACS shell buffer associated with a file, talking to a plain REPL. Although, yeah, evaling a file isn't well captured by this approach.
- dwwoelfel 11y ago> the last time we investigated REPL-logging, it was too verbose to be convenient. We were still logging it, it just went to a separate file (if you still have it, check out nrepl.log in your project directory). The log also went to Splunk, so you'd have to go to a lot of trouble to cover up your tracks.