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Have you tried the Kinesis Advantage? For typing, I haven't had a better experience.

redtuesday 11y ago
Can second that. The only thing I dont like are the crappy function keys, but that will hopefully be fixed by the next version that is finally in the works. [1] I use it in combination with the neo layout which I find really comfortable. [2] [1] http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36195.0 http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36195.0 [2] http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.neo-layout.org%2F http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=htt...
- cholantesh 11y ago
  Disappointing to hear of all the setbacks; though. I hope it'll be available by next year, if not I may end up investing in a KeyMouse, depending on how it's received.
  - redtuesday 11y ago
    Oh, didn't know about KeyMouse, looks interesting. A litle bit like a DataHand. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DataHand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DataHand
MichaelGG 11y ago
I have not. The design and size put me off. Plus I really want to avoid a different key layout, as it raises my error rate (and hand stress). This is important because I move about and sometimes use a laptop keyboard. But maybe I'll have to give it a shot. I just don't see what's so hard about taking a normal ergo keyboard and making it with proper switches.
- wlscaudill 11y ago
  I'm curious if this is simply some silly patent issue where people would make it but MS or Logitech owns a patent that is preventing it without significant modification...
- cholantesh 11y ago
  If you need to be mobile then it may not be a great choice; it's pretty cumbersome. I've been looking at the Matias Ergo Pro which looks like a better choice for someone on the go. However, I think the layout is just something that requires a bit of getting used to; after about a month I got really used to it and switching back and forth has gotten easier with use of both it and a standard keyboard. Additionally, not sure if it matters to you, but it is terrible for gaming.

Can second that. The only thing I dont like are the crappy function keys, but that will hopefully be fixed by the next version that is finally in the works. [1] I use it in combination with the neo layout which I find really comfortable. [2] [1] http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36195.0 http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36195.0 [2] http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.neo-layout.org%2F http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=htt...

cholantesh 11y ago
Disappointing to hear of all the setbacks; though. I hope it'll be available by next year, if not I may end up investing in a KeyMouse, depending on how it's received.
- redtuesday 11y ago
  Oh, didn't know about KeyMouse, looks interesting. A litle bit like a DataHand. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DataHand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DataHand

MichaelGG 11y ago

I have not. The design and size put me off. Plus I really want to avoid a different key layout, as it raises my error rate (and hand stress). This is important because I move about and sometimes use a laptop keyboard. But maybe I'll have to give it a shot. I just don't see what's so hard about taking a normal ergo keyboard and making it with proper switches.

wlscaudill 11y ago
I'm curious if this is simply some silly patent issue where people would make it but MS or Logitech owns a patent that is preventing it without significant modification...
cholantesh 11y ago
If you need to be mobile then it may not be a great choice; it's pretty cumbersome. I've been looking at the Matias Ergo Pro which looks like a better choice for someone on the go. However, I think the layout is just something that requires a bit of getting used to; after about a month I got really used to it and switching back and forth has gotten easier with use of both it and a standard keyboard. Additionally, not sure if it matters to you, but it is terrible for gaming.