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This feature (or the decisions behind it) does harm non-users. Firefox devs have publicly claimed that it will replace Firefox's current reading list. Before Po

This feature (or the decisions behind it) does harm non-users. Firefox devs have publicly claimed that it will replace Firefox's current reading list. Before Pocket integration, the integration of Reading List into Firefox Sync was planned, which is a end-to-end encrypted service with very strict ToS -- much stricter than Pocket's current ones: http://dustri.org/b/firefox-youre-supposed-to-be-in-my-pocket-not-the-other-way-around.html http://dustri.org/b/firefox-youre-supposed-to-be-in-my-pocke... Claiming that no money was involved makes the situation much worse -- it implies your core values have changed.

soapdog 11y ago
Core values never changed. You can ask the Firefox development team at their mailing list why they decided to go with Pocket instead of building their own solution based on Firefox Sync (which is now called Firefox Accounts). If the ToS and practices from Read It Later or any other partner are beyond what you consider valid or good, you can always reach Mozilla through the user voices channel and the development mailing list. The Advocacy group would also probably want to hear more about your concerns. One can direct criticism into positive changes. Mozilla is what we make of it, you can help make it better by helping the processes if you don't agree with them.
- dingaling 11y ago
  The ToS concerns have been raised repeatedly on moz-governance. We have been told not to worry about it, everything is probably fine. Probably. One guy is going to check, sometime. Edit: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.governance/2PYq2w8tejs[151-175] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.governance/2...
  - soapdog 11y ago
    Moz Legal posted about the ToS here https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.governance/2PYq2w8tejs/IAVmtqIjFkAJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.governance/2PYq2w8te...
- muraiki 11y ago
  Downvoted because ToS concerns have indeed been queried about repeatedly on various public forums.
  - soapdog 11y ago
    And they have been answered here https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.governance/2PYq2w8tejs/IAVmtqIjFkAJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.governance/2PYq2w8te...
    - untitaker_ 11y ago
      Opting for the solution that is offering less privacy to users requires an explanation. This isn't one. They say that they've collaborated with Pocket on their ToS, but those are still way worse than Firefox Sync's.

soapdog 11y ago

Core values never changed. You can ask the Firefox development team at their mailing list why they decided to go with Pocket instead of building their own solution based on Firefox Sync (which is now called Firefox Accounts). If the ToS and practices from Read It Later or any other partner are beyond what you consider valid or good, you can always reach Mozilla through the user voices channel and the development mailing list. The Advocacy group would also probably want to hear more about your concerns. One can direct criticism into positive changes. Mozilla is what we make of it, you can help make it better by helping the processes if you don't agree with them.

dingaling 11y ago
The ToS concerns have been raised repeatedly on moz-governance. We have been told not to worry about it, everything is probably fine. Probably. One guy is going to check, sometime. Edit: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.governance/2PYq2w8tejs[151-175] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.governance/2...
- soapdog 11y ago
  Moz Legal posted about the ToS here https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.governance/2PYq2w8tejs/IAVmtqIjFkAJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.governance/2PYq2w8te...
muraiki 11y ago
Downvoted because ToS concerns have indeed been queried about repeatedly on various public forums.
- soapdog 11y ago
  And they have been answered here https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.governance/2PYq2w8tejs/IAVmtqIjFkAJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.governance/2PYq2w8te...
  - untitaker_ 11y ago
    Opting for the solution that is offering less privacy to users requires an explanation. This isn't one. They say that they've collaborated with Pocket on their ToS, but those are still way worse than Firefox Sync's.