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What you seem to miss is that Americans chanting "USA" is so frequent and so common even in situations that wouldn't be considered to warrant any nationalism by

by pluma 11y ago

What you seem to miss is that Americans chanting "USA" is so frequent and so common even in situations that wouldn't be considered to warrant any nationalism by anyone else that it's a point of ridicule by anyone else. Case in point, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhITpTtG888 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhITpTtG888

jsmthrowaway 11y ago
Please, keep explaining America to us. Most of the socially liberal Americans consider it just as ridiculous and it is regularly parodied in our media all the time. I especially love that you dug up an obviously ironic chant by college students at the presence of a bald eagle and cited it as if it meant something. The bald eagle is our national symbol and is so over-the-top American that I could see the joke immediately, but I guess I understand how it would be lost on a European. That you take that video seriously is hilarious. There's something I could counter relating to certain European tendencies to explain the world to the world since certain parts of Europe still consider most of the planet as belonging to them, but I won't, because this isn't the thread or the place. Did everybody in this thread wake up today and say "gosh, I'm going to argue about America in a thread about Pluto, that's my achievement for the day"?
mturmon 11y ago
I admit, that's laughable (and I did get an honest laugh, and upvoted you for the pleasure), but that was taken at Oral Roberts University, which is a fundamentalist college founded by one of the most notorious ex-Pentecostal televangelists my fair nation has ever produced. And that's saying something. In other words, about as representative of Americans as a Le Pen rally is about French. [Contra another comment nearby: due to the venue, I believe it was a genuine chant, not ironic, although probably a bit giddy. If it had been a more mainstream university, I agree, that would have definitely been a goofy ironic chant.]

by pluma 11y ago

jsmthrowaway 11y ago

Please, keep explaining America to us. Most of the socially liberal Americans consider it just as ridiculous and it is regularly parodied in our media all the time. I especially love that you dug up an obviously ironic chant by college students at the presence of a bald eagle and cited it as if it meant something. The bald eagle is our national symbol and is so over-the-top American that I could see the joke immediately, but I guess I understand how it would be lost on a European. That you take that video seriously is hilarious. There's something I could counter relating to certain European tendencies to explain the world to the world since certain parts of Europe still consider most of the planet as belonging to them, but I won't, because this isn't the thread or the place. Did everybody in this thread wake up today and say "gosh, I'm going to argue about America in a thread about Pluto, that's my achievement for the day"?

mturmon 11y ago

I admit, that's laughable (and I did get an honest laugh, and upvoted you for the pleasure), but that was taken at Oral Roberts University, which is a fundamentalist college founded by one of the most notorious ex-Pentecostal televangelists my fair nation has ever produced. And that's saying something. In other words, about as representative of Americans as a Le Pen rally is about French. [Contra another comment nearby: due to the venue, I believe it was a genuine chant, not ironic, although probably a bit giddy. If it had been a more mainstream university, I agree, that would have definitely been a goofy ironic chant.]