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The whole recent controversy has been strange in general. There's this incredibly pervasive sense that the management in general is completely disconnected from

by Vexs 11y ago

The whole recent controversy has been strange in general. There's this incredibly pervasive sense that the management in general is completely disconnected from the community, only stepping down from on high to dish out shadowbans. I don't know what to think honestly, but it seems like the reddit administration is walking close to the cliff currently. Maybe the newOld ceo can turn that around.

HannibalLecter 11y ago
The reddit board wanted the facebook success story, but the problem with reddit has always been that they can't control the users like facebook can. They needed to usurp power back from mods into admin hands in order to bring online very unpopular features that will enable reddit to be a commercially viable operation. Gold wasn't enough for them and they are struggling now even to get past 50% of gold required per day... so they are thrashing around in the water right now. Pao was a glass cliff employee meant to be there during this crisis period. Any formal investigation might uncover evidence that reddit higher ups encouraged Pao's villain status through sock puppets. If the world hates one person they ignore the corrosive policies. Now they have usurped control over the mods and the structure of reddit itself, they can dismiss any posts that are negative fairly soon and make it look like the front page algorithm is just doing housekeeping... which is required if you want advertisers to feel good about money changing hands. The next phase will be some more staff shuffling and some very very unpopular changes that the team will seem very over-excited about introducing (fauxgasms ensue) and we'll be left wondering what the hell is going on long enough for the changes to be irreversible. This recent front page revolt of mods shutting down all their subreddits was tactical. The admins wanted everyone to get over-saturated with the revolt before the new changes became apparent. Over the next six months reddit will become more and more like facebook in terms of forcing us to see what they want us to see on the front page. They've been gaming this system from the top since the beginning. One needs only look at r/hailcorporate to see story after story of astro-turfing and fadvertising. Reddit is a company that sells entertainment in the form of conversation. That's their goal. They are succeeding because even if we're all complaining about them we're all having a conversation about them. So like everyone who isn't square, I'm over now on voat.co having my own conversation about movies and programming with people who want to talk to me... not sell me something.
IBM 11y ago
HannibalLecter your comment is dead
- HannibalLecter 11y ago
  They deleted my comment because they don't want you to know. http://i.imgur.com/f15zbNO.png http://i.imgur.com/f15zbNO.png
yokohama11 11y ago
They are fortunate that at present the core users (the people doing the vast majority of the moderating, submitting, and commenting) are somewhat captive, there isn't a logical successor waiting in the wings to shine. Thus far Voat, Snapzu, etc are far too immature for anyone to really switch to. As long as that continues to be the case, the core will probably keep coming back short of literally pulling a Digg V4 and outright breaking the site/removing everything about it that people liked. ------ It'll be a while still before any competitor gets their act together enough to start siphoning users in a noticeable manner. So I'd say they've got quite a bit more room to go....but they are getting closer to that cliff.

by Vexs 11y ago

HannibalLecter 11y ago

The reddit board wanted the facebook success story, but the problem with reddit has always been that they can't control the users like facebook can. They needed to usurp power back from mods into admin hands in order to bring online very unpopular features that will enable reddit to be a commercially viable operation. Gold wasn't enough for them and they are struggling now even to get past 50% of gold required per day... so they are thrashing around in the water right now. Pao was a glass cliff employee meant to be there during this crisis period. Any formal investigation might uncover evidence that reddit higher ups encouraged Pao's villain status through sock puppets. If the world hates one person they ignore the corrosive policies. Now they have usurped control over the mods and the structure of reddit itself, they can dismiss any posts that are negative fairly soon and make it look like the front page algorithm is just doing housekeeping... which is required if you want advertisers to feel good about money changing hands. The next phase will be some more staff shuffling and some very very unpopular changes that the team will seem very over-excited about introducing (fauxgasms ensue) and we'll be left wondering what the hell is going on long enough for the changes to be irreversible. This recent front page revolt of mods shutting down all their subreddits was tactical. The admins wanted everyone to get over-saturated with the revolt before the new changes became apparent. Over the next six months reddit will become more and more like facebook in terms of forcing us to see what they want us to see on the front page. They've been gaming this system from the top since the beginning. One needs only look at r/hailcorporate to see story after story of astro-turfing and fadvertising. Reddit is a company that sells entertainment in the form of conversation. That's their goal. They are succeeding because even if we're all complaining about them we're all having a conversation about them. So like everyone who isn't square, I'm over now on voat.co having my own conversation about movies and programming with people who want to talk to me... not sell me something.

IBM 11y ago

HannibalLecter your comment is dead

HannibalLecter 11y ago
They deleted my comment because they don't want you to know. http://i.imgur.com/f15zbNO.png http://i.imgur.com/f15zbNO.png

yokohama11 11y ago

They are fortunate that at present the core users (the people doing the vast majority of the moderating, submitting, and commenting) are somewhat captive, there isn't a logical successor waiting in the wings to shine. Thus far Voat, Snapzu, etc are far too immature for anyone to really switch to. As long as that continues to be the case, the core will probably keep coming back short of literally pulling a Digg V4 and outright breaking the site/removing everything about it that people liked. ------ It'll be a while still before any competitor gets their act together enough to start siphoning users in a noticeable manner. So I'd say they've got quite a bit more room to go....but they are getting closer to that cliff.