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Spoken exactly like someone who has never driven a Tesla. ;) > a used Lexus that cost us $8,000. It's an extremely comfortable luxury car that seats 5 and can
by lectrick 11y ago
Spoken exactly like someone who has never driven a Tesla. ;)
> a used Lexus that cost us $8,000. It's an extremely comfortable luxury car that seats 5 and can easily be driven across the country
How much did that Lexus cost new?
How much will a used Tesla go for in a few years?
> and can easily be driven across the country
Yes, NOW. But, you didn't read the article (or your reading comprehension sucks). If 10% of the cars on the road become electric, at least 10% of the gas stations will start to close (since that business is barely profitable), making it increasingly less convenient to own a gas car.
> A new electric car [1], on the other hand, costs approximately the same but can only seat 2 people and can travel 160 km on one charge.
Yeah, today. What about in 5-10 years?
You consistently use current state to argue against future state. There must be a fallacy named for this.
> It takes 6 hours to fully charge.
Tesla's tech is here now and takes far less time. He also released all his patents.
> The costly lithium-ion batteries will have to be replaced at some point.
Yes, in 10 years, when they will be far, far cheaper, due to manufacturing economies of scale. In that time they will lose only 10-15% of their total charging capacity.
> True, it is convenient for trips around town without much luggage.
Using electric motors over gas engines is a HUGE space savings. Again, see: Tesla. (You really need to see one of these up close and drive one. It may be the only thing that will "show you the light.")
> I'm fairly confident that the used Lexus will outlast and outrun the new electric car.
Nope, because the ICE (internal combustion engine) and transmission has hundreds or thousands more parts (any of which can break) than an electric transmission. The Tesla only has ONE GEAR, for example. Teslas, and other electrics with 3-phase AC induction motors, will last faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar longer than gas powered cars. I've seen 60 year old electric motors running like a top, and in googling the reliability of electric motors, they are far higher than gas motors. Coupled with the "tipping point" effect of many gas stations closing up due to lack of business, that cross-country trip will end up needing to be routed through available stations one day...
Did I mention that a Tesla, going the same distance as an ICE vehicle, has 1/3 the carbon footprint.
Source: I own a Tesla Model S P85+ and fully expect this thing to still be in tip top shape in 10 years while continuing to run circles around gas cars (ohhhh, I can't wait till you experience simply passing people by at speed in this thing... you think the thought and it's like you're a pinball coming off caroms to your destination...)
- Symmetry 11y agoThere very likely is no tipping point with gas stations. http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2015/07/the-electric-vehicle-tipping-point.html http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2015/07/the... "A 10% reduction would be 221 million vehicles but that is how many vehicles there were in 2000. Was driving an automobile so much more inconvenient in 2000 than it was in 2009?"
- lectrick 11y ago> Was driving an automobile so much more inconvenient in 2000 than it was in 2009? I don't understand this logic. The answer is "no, it wasn't, because there were fewer vehicles." What would happen is that stations would become less dense, and there's a low density point there where "inconvenience" is reached, or at least, gas-range anxiety. This actually happened when gas vehicles were new. The response also says that demand is already decreasing simply due to the emergence of more fuel-efficient vehicles, so a penetrating EV market may merely accelerate that decline.