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To me the more interesting thing is that the Chinese government is making such a big deal about a relatively unknown app such as Telegram, but isn't saying or d
by higherpurpose 11y ago
To me the more interesting thing is that the Chinese government is making such a big deal about a relatively unknown app such as Telegram, but isn't saying or doing anything at all about iMessage, which is supposed to be end-to-end encrypted (by default even, unlike Telegram).
Are you telling me that those same lawyers don't have iPhones and don't use iMessage even more than they do Telegram? Because I don't believe that.
So either the Chinese government has just recognized there's nothing they can do about banning Apple's iMessage - or Apple already provides them with a way to look at iMessages.
I'm inclining to believe it's more the latter.
- johnnydoebk 11y ago>> Are you telling me that those same lawyers don't have iPhones SUDDENLY, you know nothing about China and other developing & 3rd world countries.
- olalonde 11y agoNot sure what you mean but Apple sells more iPhones in China than the US.
- greatfire 11y agoIt's the latter - Apple will let the authorities access messages. Telegram will not. And simply blocking the Telegram website does not mean that the app won't continue to function in China. Which is why the authorities likely decided to launch a DDoS attack, so they could silence the human rights lawyers that were using it to communicate.
- happyscrappy 11y ago>It's the latter - Apple will let the authorities access messages. Do you have a source for that? It would seem to be huge news.
- sosuke 11y agoCan they even do that? I thought they used end-to-end encryption. I guess we just have to take them at their word though. http://daringfireball.net/2013/10/imessage_encryption http://daringfireball.net/2013/10/imessage_encryption
- higherpurpose 11y agoWell Apple backs-up iMessages by default anyway. So even if it is end-to-end, they still have a copy of everything on their servers, unless you disable the iMessage syncing. Also, just like Whatsapp's "end-to-end" crypto, just because they use it now doesn't mean they can't disable it at any time without you being aware of it. That's the danger of proprietary closed-source software.
- leavjenn 11y agoCause China gov heard that the so-called dissidents were using Telegram. For the iMessage, it is just for iPhone, Telegram is all-platform. And in China, iPhone is still an expensive smartphone. Android phone is used more widely. Edit: typo