>> They are universally pretty terrible (as are, in my opinion/experience _most_ user interfaces running on any JVM). Including web or just client side? If the

>> They are universally pretty terrible (as are, in my opinion/experience _most_ user interfaces running on any JVM). Including web or just client side? If the same UI's that you consider terrible on the JVM were ported to say, well pick any language/platform and ported exactly but using your preferred language and platform features; would the interfaces now be better since they are implemented on your desired language/platform?