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I think this device is way, way overhyped. If you are at the point where you need a device like this to get away from some government agency (or terrorists, or

by rpcope1 11y ago

I think this device is way, way overhyped. If you are at the point where you need a device like this to get away from some government agency (or terrorists, or whomever) you expose yourself to so much risk just planting a 802.11 to 900 MHz bridge it's not even funny, and then if you have someone who is remotely competent is tracking you, I would imagine they'd having something like some SDRs or a couple of spectrum analyzers and notice unusual traffic on one of the few unregulated frequency bands, and would have no trouble at all triangulating you (believe me, the FCC is excellent at this). Would your normal law enforcement officer/agent from $THREE_LETTER_AGENCY always do this? Probably not, but if they're not going that far, you're probably safer just connecting in a normal fashion and doing things like MAC spoofing, or for added distance, just using a good 802.11 transciever with a excellent dish or yagi antenna. The 900 MHz bridge planted at the WiFi AP just screams "I'm doing something probably really bad", and the name of the game here is "keep a low profile."

CyberDildonics 11y ago
Nice try LEA
- rpcope1 11y ago
  If I were associated with the government, why would I encourage you to just use a very good 802.11 transceiver with the appropriate (dish or yagi) antenna instead? If I were with $YOUR_GOVERNMENT I think I'd encourage you to use "ProxyHam" as it would sure make my job easier (and would probably increase the number of charges I could bring against you).
jack9 11y ago
> I think this device is way, way overhyped. Based on what? > believe me, the FCC is excellent at this Any HAM radio operator or junior electrical engineer is excellent at this. Triangulation isn't magic. http://www.homingin.com/beginr.html#toc http://www.homingin.com/beginr.html#toc
- rpcope1 11y ago
  > Based on what? Based on the fact this got any media coverage whatsoever. Idea is cool, from the technical perspective of bridging from one frequency range to another (and there's obviously money to be made in it, as the equipment he used is manufactured by Ubiquiti for something similar to this purpose), but really is a very poor way to try and keep a low profile or make yourself less traceable/make an easier escape. > Any HAM radio operator or junior electrical engineer is excellent at this. Triangulation isn't magic. http://www.homingin.com/beginr.html#toc http://www.homingin.com/beginr.html#toc Right, I think it drives home just how relatively straightforward it is, not to say the FCC has a monopoly on the technique by any standards. I had mentioned the FCC, as this tends to be their domain, and I've been on the wrong side of their triangulation once in my youth. ;)

by rpcope1 11y ago

CyberDildonics 11y ago

Nice try LEA

rpcope1 11y ago
If I were associated with the government, why would I encourage you to just use a very good 802.11 transceiver with the appropriate (dish or yagi) antenna instead? If I were with $YOUR_GOVERNMENT I think I'd encourage you to use "ProxyHam" as it would sure make my job easier (and would probably increase the number of charges I could bring against you).

jack9 11y ago

> I think this device is way, way overhyped. Based on what? > believe me, the FCC is excellent at this Any HAM radio operator or junior electrical engineer is excellent at this. Triangulation isn't magic. http://www.homingin.com/beginr.html#toc http://www.homingin.com/beginr.html#toc

rpcope1 11y ago
> Based on what? Based on the fact this got any media coverage whatsoever. Idea is cool, from the technical perspective of bridging from one frequency range to another (and there's obviously money to be made in it, as the equipment he used is manufactured by Ubiquiti for something similar to this purpose), but really is a very poor way to try and keep a low profile or make yourself less traceable/make an easier escape. > Any HAM radio operator or junior electrical engineer is excellent at this. Triangulation isn't magic. http://www.homingin.com/beginr.html#toc http://www.homingin.com/beginr.html#toc Right, I think it drives home just how relatively straightforward it is, not to say the FCC has a monopoly on the technique by any standards. I had mentioned the FCC, as this tends to be their domain, and I've been on the wrong side of their triangulation once in my youth. ;)