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If the author is correct (which I am not questioning or doubting) and very high profile projects are using this feature... and Oracle refuses solicit input from

by bcg1 11y ago

If the author is correct (which I am not questioning or doubting) and very high profile projects are using this feature... and Oracle refuses solicit input from the community... those developers with clout can and should maintain a fork of OpenJDK to include this feature. If things like Netty only run on the forked version of the JDK, and the developers are committed to not porting or working around a lack of Unsafe support, Oracle will be forced to reconcile with the community or risk burning down their own house. Do not be surprised if they remove this feature from the GPL'd OpenJDK but maintain an analogous feature in their proprietary JRockit JVM. There is a good chance that this is a "shot heard around the world", and now is the time to start fighting back.

pjmlp 11y ago
Oracle did a survey last year exactly as input for what to do.
- bcg1 11y ago
  Good, that seems like a smart move. It is of course possible for them to still ignore the results of that survey, or to game the results, or that a majority of respondents don't care or understand the issue anyhow. My point is that if this feature is important enough to people, they can take real action and don't have to kiss the ring and beg at the feet of power in order to achieve the result that they want.
  - pron 11y ago
    They are not ignoring the result, and are doing exactly what the author wants them to do, except they started doing it before this hysterical piece was written.
    - bcg1 11y ago
      I kind of figured as much... and that was my point actually... that writing and whining about it useless, and that if they actually do start misbehaving the community has the capability to take real action.
  - pjmlp 11y ago
    Here, Java ONE 2014, one year ago! "Safety Not Guaranteed: sun.misc.Unsafe and the Quest for Safe Alternatives" https://www.parleys.com/tutorial/safety-not-guaranteed-sun-misc-unsafe-quest-safe-alternatives https://www.parleys.com/tutorial/safety-not-guaranteed-sun-m... Every Java developer worth its salt knows about Java ONE.
    - bcg1 11y ago
      Bet you I'm worth some salt... and I don't pay attention at all to "Java ONE"

by bcg1 11y ago

pjmlp 11y ago

Oracle did a survey last year exactly as input for what to do.

bcg1 11y ago
Good, that seems like a smart move. It is of course possible for them to still ignore the results of that survey, or to game the results, or that a majority of respondents don't care or understand the issue anyhow. My point is that if this feature is important enough to people, they can take real action and don't have to kiss the ring and beg at the feet of power in order to achieve the result that they want.
- pron 11y ago
  They are not ignoring the result, and are doing exactly what the author wants them to do, except they started doing it before this hysterical piece was written.
  - bcg1 11y ago
    I kind of figured as much... and that was my point actually... that writing and whining about it useless, and that if they actually do start misbehaving the community has the capability to take real action.
- pjmlp 11y ago
  Here, Java ONE 2014, one year ago! "Safety Not Guaranteed: sun.misc.Unsafe and the Quest for Safe Alternatives" https://www.parleys.com/tutorial/safety-not-guaranteed-sun-misc-unsafe-quest-safe-alternatives https://www.parleys.com/tutorial/safety-not-guaranteed-sun-m... Every Java developer worth its salt knows about Java ONE.
  - bcg1 11y ago
    Bet you I'm worth some salt... and I don't pay attention at all to "Java ONE"