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The Real Internet of Things

10 points by acheron 11y ago

jefurii 11y ago
Reading the title I thought maybe this was going to be about the logistics industry. Shipping containers are a lot like packets, ports and train yards are a lot like routers, etc.
VOYD 11y ago
Another case of using the word "disrupt" way too many times.
- danielmiessler 11y ago
  I count one (1).
robbrit 11y ago
While I love the idea of connectedness and convenience, I believe the reputation system described here would be a disaster and seriously hope the world is not heading in this direction. Technical challenges aside, here are a few major problems with having this type of reputation measure for everything: * It's a huge invasion of privacy. There's a reason why credit ratings are difficult to access. * It's uni-dimensional. Some things don't measure that way, it's why the word "trade-off" exists. * It's a serious limitation for the sub-optimal people/businesses out there. How will the socially-awkward people find dates? How would new businesses be able to make the necessary mistakes they need to in order to find a market fit without seriously damaging their information? * How do you avoid people gaming the system to become more "reputable"? See https://www.google.com/search?q=why+I+left+stack+overflow https://www.google.com/search?q=why+I+left+stack+overflow * It's a major hurdle for those who do not yet have any reputation: those who are from outside the system such as new businesses, or don't know the system such as new immigrants and non-early adopters.
- danielmiessler 11y ago
  I think you make good points here, but I don't think it'll stop this from happening. There are ways to try to capture the intangibles, and the functionality is just too rich for us to avoid.
  - robbrit 11y ago
    It's not the IoT that I'm arguing against, it's the reputation system. I think that it's fairly dystopian and unfair, and even if it comes into play as you've predicted eventually a significant percentage of people will just abandon or ignore it just like they do with many other reputation systems.

10 points by acheron 11y ago

Reading the title I thought maybe this was going to be about the logistics industry. Shipping containers are a lot like packets, ports and train yards are a lot like routers, etc.

VOYD 11y ago

Another case of using the word "disrupt" way too many times.

danielmiessler 11y ago
I count one (1).

robbrit 11y ago

While I love the idea of connectedness and convenience, I believe the reputation system described here would be a disaster and seriously hope the world is not heading in this direction. Technical challenges aside, here are a few major problems with having this type of reputation measure for everything: * It's a huge invasion of privacy. There's a reason why credit ratings are difficult to access. * It's uni-dimensional. Some things don't measure that way, it's why the word "trade-off" exists. * It's a serious limitation for the sub-optimal people/businesses out there. How will the socially-awkward people find dates? How would new businesses be able to make the necessary mistakes they need to in order to find a market fit without seriously damaging their information? * How do you avoid people gaming the system to become more "reputable"? See https://www.google.com/search?q=why+I+left+stack+overflow https://www.google.com/search?q=why+I+left+stack+overflow * It's a major hurdle for those who do not yet have any reputation: those who are from outside the system such as new businesses, or don't know the system such as new immigrants and non-early adopters.

danielmiessler 11y ago
I think you make good points here, but I don't think it'll stop this from happening. There are ways to try to capture the intangibles, and the functionality is just too rich for us to avoid.
- robbrit 11y ago
  It's not the IoT that I'm arguing against, it's the reputation system. I think that it's fairly dystopian and unfair, and even if it comes into play as you've predicted eventually a significant percentage of people will just abandon or ignore it just like they do with many other reputation systems.