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You're right, this story's a little inaccurate. The problem with Greece is that they were given tons of money, they did change things, they did austerity - some
by fennecfoxen 11y ago
You're right, this story's a little inaccurate. The problem with Greece is that they were given tons of money, they did change things, they did austerity - some of the best kind of austerity, too, like raising the retirement age, keeping people in the economy and working without the biggest impact on spending - and they did a little market reform to promote competition. And their recovery was underway, and then their people voted in a government which promised to change things back and make everything 100% painless, and then that government tried to be the hardball negotiator but without anything they could do to back up their bluster.
The other problem with Greece is that they're the sort of nation where you have a nationalized health care system but you need to bribe the doctor to get an appointment. (And private industry is also sclerotic and more about bribing the regulators than being able to compete.) Lying to the EU about budget deficits in the past should be seen in this context.
And the other problem with Greece is that they see Merkel in this negotiating group and think "Oh, the Germans want to occupy us again like in World War II." ANGELA MERKEL IS HITLER2.0! VOTE LEFTIST! RESIST THE REFORMS!
(and according to some reputable publications on the topic of international relations, like the Wall Street Journal, word on the street in Brussels is that a lot of these countries would be happier if Greece just walks away then if they accept bailout terms at this point, because they don't trust them to actually stick to the bailout terms.)
- nisa 11y ago> And their recovery was underway This considered bullshit by at least Hans-Werner-Sinn and Flassbeck - 2 economists that usually don't share a lot of opinions. Also austeritiy didn't work and made things worse: http://www.interfluidity.com/uploads/2015/07/Greekovery.png http://www.interfluidity.com/uploads/2015/07/Greekovery.png The new government wanted to change that.
- claudius 11y agoGreek GDP was grossly overinflated in 2008 by overspending in the public sector. Compared to 1990, Greece still grew 80% points more than e.g. France until 2014, so they really don’t have much to complain about.
- dpark 11y ago> they really don’t have much to complain about. Really? I'd complain quite a bit about a 25% GDP drop, regardless of whether it was "overinflated" to start with.
- jugad 11y agoIs the 2014 figure for Greece its real GDP without the overinflation? If that is the case, we can simply inflate it up and problem solved.