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The whole thing itself is kinda confused about what exactly the cloud has to do with outsourcing. Going to the cloud doesn't magically get rid of programmers. I

The whole thing itself is kinda confused about what exactly the cloud has to do with outsourcing. Going to the cloud doesn't magically get rid of programmers. It just means you might have one or two fewer people because you don't need to worry about managing the actual hardware. Writing the software, maintaining it, patching it, etc. still needs to happen. Overall, more sensational than it really needs to be. The fact that Big Corp. is figuring out how to have a leaner IT operation is a good thing but they were bloated to begin with and are just catching up. Not really news to anyone who has seen those things.

asadlionpk 11y ago
I think cloud here means products like Freshbooks, basecamp, salesforce, etc. Big companies were previously outsourcing dev + support to these to Indian companies (and were bloated, also bad software, constant dev cycles fixing things) but are now turning towards these "0-programmer required" cloud apps. Which is essentially causing this decline.
- dkarapetyan 11y ago
  Ok, that makes more sense. The article definitely misses the mark then.
- thewarrior 11y ago
  50 % of Indian IT is not development but "infrastructure management" which is just monitoring servers etc. With all the infrastructure being outsourced to the cloud and being managed by super small teams and highly efficient algorithms half of the business of Indian IT has stopped growing. On the other hand you have companies like IPSoft which automate monitoring your own infrastructure. The third blow is from things like Salesforce etc. Altogether it could be a bit of a major blow to growth in Indian IT. Because it never really competed on technical strength but only on cost . Now all the low cost work is vanishing and they're forced to somehow transition to 100 % dev work with the poor quality of devs they have (on average) . The article is a bit poor as it doesn't shed light on these aspects. We definitely need better articles on this subject as it's effects on India are going to be huge.
jajaBinks 11y ago
I think what they mean is that IT Outsourcing that specifically involved deploying, installing, upgrading, configuring tools and software is being disrupted by cloud, because you don't need to worry about a lot of such things any more. Like bringing up 20 windows machines, and installing SQL Server, .NET Framework, and domain join the machines used to be a 2 day affair, not so with Azure. Nothing to do with outsourced software development. The cloud may actually boost outsourcing in that area.
- abrookewood 11y ago
  Yeah, this is how I read it. With AWS, you just click a few buttons or upload a template and you get what you need. Infrastructure as code completely takes away a bunch of work that used to be outsourced to India.

asadlionpk 11y ago

I think cloud here means products like Freshbooks, basecamp, salesforce, etc. Big companies were previously outsourcing dev + support to these to Indian companies (and were bloated, also bad software, constant dev cycles fixing things) but are now turning towards these "0-programmer required" cloud apps. Which is essentially causing this decline.

dkarapetyan 11y ago
Ok, that makes more sense. The article definitely misses the mark then.
thewarrior 11y ago
50 % of Indian IT is not development but "infrastructure management" which is just monitoring servers etc. With all the infrastructure being outsourced to the cloud and being managed by super small teams and highly efficient algorithms half of the business of Indian IT has stopped growing. On the other hand you have companies like IPSoft which automate monitoring your own infrastructure. The third blow is from things like Salesforce etc. Altogether it could be a bit of a major blow to growth in Indian IT. Because it never really competed on technical strength but only on cost . Now all the low cost work is vanishing and they're forced to somehow transition to 100 % dev work with the poor quality of devs they have (on average) . The article is a bit poor as it doesn't shed light on these aspects. We definitely need better articles on this subject as it's effects on India are going to be huge.

jajaBinks 11y ago

I think what they mean is that IT Outsourcing that specifically involved deploying, installing, upgrading, configuring tools and software is being disrupted by cloud, because you don't need to worry about a lot of such things any more. Like bringing up 20 windows machines, and installing SQL Server, .NET Framework, and domain join the machines used to be a 2 day affair, not so with Azure. Nothing to do with outsourced software development. The cloud may actually boost outsourcing in that area.

abrookewood 11y ago
Yeah, this is how I read it. With AWS, you just click a few buttons or upload a template and you get what you need. Infrastructure as code completely takes away a bunch of work that used to be outsourced to India.