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You're forgetting the (admittedly, somewhat uncountable) number of people who are substituting porn and masturbation for sexual relationships with real, live hu
by rosser 11y ago
You're forgetting the (admittedly, somewhat uncountable) number of people who are substituting porn and masturbation for sexual relationships with real, live human beings.
Yes, people in relationships, with sex lives watch porn. Good for them. They aren't the ones we should be concerned about; they aren't the ones whose behavior is (or risks becoming) maladptive.
I think you're drawing a false identity here — between people who use porn to supplement their sex lives, and people for whom porn is their sex life — and treating the valuable and well-warranted concern for the latter as criticism of the whole.
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- ams6110 11y agoAs someone else asked above, who is "we?" And why is it any business of "ours" whether someone decides that relationships (in the romantic/sexual sense) with other people are something he/she wants?
- rosser 11y agoMy language was admittedly a bit sloppy, but I was talking specifically about people who are turning to porn to fill the need/want in their sexual life for a partner. If that's what someone genuinely wants, and it's what makes them happy [1], then good for them. [1] As opposed simply to being a means of getting off while avoiding the risk and vulnerability that human intimacy tends to require. Even then, if that's the choice they're making, it's their life, I guess. I've just known a few people who did make that choice, and invariably, they felt wretched about it.
- digi_owl 11y ago> Even then, if that's the choice they're making, it's their life, I guess. I've just known a few people who did make that choice, and invariably, they felt wretched about it. < Because of the act itself, or the social stigma put upon the act?
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- allemagne 11y agoBoth of those questions seem self-explanatory. "We" means society, civilization, or humanity at large, and the point isn't to force relationships on people who wouldn't otherwise be in them but to acknowledge and help out of altruism those who want romance but instead self-medicate with pornography and masturbation.
- mistermann 11y agoWell, demographics and reproduction rates have significant effect on economics for starters. http://www.clearonmoney.com/dw/doku.php?id=public:japan_demographics http://www.clearonmoney.com/dw/doku.php?id=public:japan_demo...
- icebraining 11y agoWell, not exactly. Lack of people of working age has an effect on economics. Reproduction is just one possible way of fixing that problem, not the only.
- mistermann 11y agoIf you do not reproduce, then the existing population has to work longer, or you need immigration to make up the difference, at least to care for the retired generation until they pass away. And at least for Japan, they don't seem to be a big fan of immigration.
- icebraining 11y agoOr improve productivity per worker.
- 7952 11y agoIt isn't anyone's buisness, it is just interesting to consider.
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