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> There are plenty of completely valid uses for having a phone on whilst driving - such as navigation, streaming music or using CarPlay Valid? They are comple

> There are plenty of completely valid uses for having a phone on whilst driving - such as navigation, streaming music or using CarPlay Valid? They are completely and utterly unnecessary. I was listening to music before the iPhone existed. I was also driving from point A to point B before GPS navigation existed. Funny, if you know how to read a map it you don't get lost. No, these things are not necessary. It's one of those cases of "Just because you can <insert function> it doesn't mean you should". Streaming Pandora while driving or using a shitty phone navigation system isn't a right. And certainly not one that is above the implied right to be safe on the road and responsibility to operate a vehicle in a manner that does not endanger the lives of others. We are not entitled to use these toys while driving. Just because the features are there does not mean the driver MUST use them or IS ENTITLED to use them. Let's start from the correct starting point: A driver should not interact with their phone in almost any way while driving. Everything else derives from there.

rebootthesystem 11y ago
It would be fantastic if those down-voting this comment could explain why they think it is OK for somebody to place others in mortal danger for the "privilege" of playing with a toy while driving. And, in particular, I would like them to explain how they would feel about this if they lost a member of their family to some asshole texting while driving as my family has. It's easy to have a fucking opinion about everything when you are not exposed to the consequences of your ideas.
- manicdee 11y ago
  Your attitude is one reason. Your blatant lies about paper maps being superior to turn by turn navigation systems are another. Your nonsensical ranting about people playing with toys while driving being somehow more dangerous than trying to read a map while driving would be another. Seriously, step away from the computer and surrender your Internet license. Go play with your paper maps and AM radio. And try to understsnd the difference between, "valid use" and "necessary".
  - dang 11y ago
    Personal attacks are not allowed on Hacker News, regardless of how wrong someone else may be. We ban accounts that do this repeatedly.

rebootthesystem 11y ago

It would be fantastic if those down-voting this comment could explain why they think it is OK for somebody to place others in mortal danger for the "privilege" of playing with a toy while driving. And, in particular, I would like them to explain how they would feel about this if they lost a member of their family to some asshole texting while driving as my family has. It's easy to have a fucking opinion about everything when you are not exposed to the consequences of your ideas.

manicdee 11y ago
Your attitude is one reason. Your blatant lies about paper maps being superior to turn by turn navigation systems are another. Your nonsensical ranting about people playing with toys while driving being somehow more dangerous than trying to read a map while driving would be another. Seriously, step away from the computer and surrender your Internet license. Go play with your paper maps and AM radio. And try to understsnd the difference between, "valid use" and "necessary".
- dang 11y ago
  Personal attacks are not allowed on Hacker News, regardless of how wrong someone else may be. We ban accounts that do this repeatedly.