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Under what conditions does google have to turn over the search records? Can the government say, "Give ue all the records for those who searched for 'murder' rel

Under what conditions does google have to turn over the search records? Can the government say, "Give ue all the records for those who searched for 'murder' related queries." I'm guessing not, and that a warrant must be presented, but I'm still curious. My search history probably makes me out to be a psychopath, when in fact I just have a wide array of strange interests.

skywalker 17y ago
And why don't they do the same with DNS queries? Quoting from the recently released public DNS service: "The temporary logs store the full IP address of the machine you're using... We _delete_ these temporary logs within 24 to 48 hours." http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy.html http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy.html Is there anything in the Patriot Act that says explicitly that search engines should keep search logs but not DNS queries?
- benatkin 17y ago
  They delete them, but not before the government makes a copy.
  - jhancock 17y ago
    Are you serious? If so, any further info?
    - benatkin 17y ago
      No, I was just joking. I planned on indicating that, but I forgot to when I left the browser tab for a bit and returned.
andreyf 17y ago
Search warrants have to be very specific regarding what they target. "Give us all the records for those who searched for 'murder' related queries" isn't specific enough for a warrant. "Give us the records of [some user] searching for [terms related to some specific technique of disposing of bodies] during March 2009" might be valid, but IANAL. If you're ever brought to trial using evidence gained by a warrant which didn't list that evidence to some reasonable specificity, any decent lawyer will have that evidence removed from consideration.
- ErrantX 17y ago
  It would usually have to be even more specific than that. i.e. they would probably have to specify what they were looking for as well as some specifics of why they think X user (IP or google username) relates to Y person in their investigation. Were forgetting, I think, there is already wide provisions for law enforcement to get your email password.. no one ever gets het up about that in the same way but most of the big ISP's can be forced, with warrants, to hand over access to accounts :)

skywalker 17y ago

And why don't they do the same with DNS queries? Quoting from the recently released public DNS service: "The temporary logs store the full IP address of the machine you're using... We _delete_ these temporary logs within 24 to 48 hours." http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy.html http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy.html Is there anything in the Patriot Act that says explicitly that search engines should keep search logs but not DNS queries?

benatkin 17y ago
They delete them, but not before the government makes a copy.
- jhancock 17y ago
  Are you serious? If so, any further info?
  - benatkin 17y ago
    No, I was just joking. I planned on indicating that, but I forgot to when I left the browser tab for a bit and returned.

andreyf 17y ago

Search warrants have to be very specific regarding what they target. "Give us all the records for those who searched for 'murder' related queries" isn't specific enough for a warrant. "Give us the records of [some user] searching for [terms related to some specific technique of disposing of bodies] during March 2009" might be valid, but IANAL. If you're ever brought to trial using evidence gained by a warrant which didn't list that evidence to some reasonable specificity, any decent lawyer will have that evidence removed from consideration.

ErrantX 17y ago
It would usually have to be even more specific than that. i.e. they would probably have to specify what they were looking for as well as some specifics of why they think X user (IP or google username) relates to Y person in their investigation. Were forgetting, I think, there is already wide provisions for law enforcement to get your email password.. no one ever gets het up about that in the same way but most of the big ISP's can be forced, with warrants, to hand over access to accounts :)