hell no the unholy trinity (socrates, plato, aristotes) were despictable in regard to presocratic. They where siding with the wealthiest one in order to say: -

hell no the unholy trinity (socrates, plato, aristotes) were despictable in regard to presocratic. They where siding with the wealthiest one in order to say: - richest people should rule and democracy was shit (hence the republic) - science sux because it is complex to understand it; - religion should rule the life of people; - censorship is cool; - it matters more to ridicule your opponents with fallacies than to use logic in dialog; - philosoph should lend their power to the more powerful in order to influence the society - martyrdom is totally cool. Let us die for ideas On the other hand you have - Epicure: most people defer to live not noticing a deadly poison has been put in the source of our life - Euclides : you can create any geometry given the choice of axioms and careful reasoning - Diogenes Laerce : the cynics (dogs in greek) living by choice with no material property (the inspiration behind the stoician) - Esop well, who don't know Esop? La Fontaine at least plagiarized him and then became a famous french poet. - Herodote: Invented modern history - thyucidide described the end of the greek civilisation (conflict between Spart and the imperialist Athen) - Solon, Clysten, périclès the inventor of the real democracy and the founder of politicics - Sparta invented the modern method of social management and controlling the masses AND The last of the sophist (the way of thinking that was demolished by the socratics): Nietschze. Wie man mit dem Hammer philosophirt (or how much socrates sux).