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Oh yes, China succeeded economicaly because it is such a free nation. And while we should commend China for the impressive freedom of its citizens and the resu

by hristov 17y ago

Oh yes, China succeeded economicaly because it is such a free nation. And while we should commend China for the impressive freedom of its citizens and the resulting economic wealth, we should forget the humble messenger. Isn't it great that we have such stalwart libertarian scholars like the hoover institution that helpfully point out and commend nations that are truly free. With institutions like these in the US, I bet every dictator in the world is shaking in his boots.

hristov 17y ago
So somebody has modded me down. Somebody wishes to deny the Chinese people their glorious freedom! Fine, mod me down, but I should let you know that you are either a communist deadender that denies the powers of free enterprise or a capitalist imperialist pig and enemy of communism (depending on which jurisdiction you currently reside in). Either way, its a bad thing.
- josefresco 17y ago
  Where oh where did this thread go oh so wrong..
Rexxar 17y ago
Have you read the text ?
- hristov 17y ago
  Yes, I read it and learned a lot. Apparently Russia lacked a diaspora. I never knew that! In fact, I am burning all my Vladimir Nabakov books on the grounds that he is a liar. Also the Chinese wanted reform and the Russians did not. Gorbachev somehow conned the entire Soviet Union to end communism when everyone wanted it to keep going. Basicaly a lot of lessons learned.
  - papersmith 17y ago
    Like they said in the article "A few Russians had emigrated to the United States and Israel.", though the number is probably much smaller in comparison. I think it's saying that Russia being more urbanized, the Russians' lives were much better off to begin with, so there wasn't as much momentum for change. If you compare per capita GDP, Russia is still about three times as much as China, the margin was even bigger back then. The reform happened mostly in the countryside, while in cities the workers under the protective umbrella of state-owned enterprises were much more resistant to change. It just happened that Russia had a larger portion city workers than China.
    - hristov 17y ago
      Yes, he mentions a few Russians emigrated, which is an incredible understatement. And he does not reconcile this fact with his theory which assumes exactly the opposite. Regarding your other argument you are giving the writer too much credit and putting words in his mouth. He does not mention comparative GDP.

by hristov 17y ago

hristov 17y ago

So somebody has modded me down. Somebody wishes to deny the Chinese people their glorious freedom! Fine, mod me down, but I should let you know that you are either a communist deadender that denies the powers of free enterprise or a capitalist imperialist pig and enemy of communism (depending on which jurisdiction you currently reside in). Either way, its a bad thing.

josefresco 17y ago
Where oh where did this thread go oh so wrong..

Rexxar 17y ago

Have you read the text ?

hristov 17y ago
Yes, I read it and learned a lot. Apparently Russia lacked a diaspora. I never knew that! In fact, I am burning all my Vladimir Nabakov books on the grounds that he is a liar. Also the Chinese wanted reform and the Russians did not. Gorbachev somehow conned the entire Soviet Union to end communism when everyone wanted it to keep going. Basicaly a lot of lessons learned.
- papersmith 17y ago
  Like they said in the article "A few Russians had emigrated to the United States and Israel.", though the number is probably much smaller in comparison. I think it's saying that Russia being more urbanized, the Russians' lives were much better off to begin with, so there wasn't as much momentum for change. If you compare per capita GDP, Russia is still about three times as much as China, the margin was even bigger back then. The reform happened mostly in the countryside, while in cities the workers under the protective umbrella of state-owned enterprises were much more resistant to change. It just happened that Russia had a larger portion city workers than China.
  - hristov 17y ago
    Yes, he mentions a few Russians emigrated, which is an incredible understatement. And he does not reconcile this fact with his theory which assumes exactly the opposite. Regarding your other argument you are giving the writer too much credit and putting words in his mouth. He does not mention comparative GDP.