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I disagree on what this says about frameworks. I think frameworks are great. They are specially great when you come to really understand one and how it works an

I disagree on what this says about frameworks. I think frameworks are great. They are specially great when you come to really understand one and how it works and how it can be customised. The major problems I've seen with frameworks is that people just use the default look or try to add customisations on top of the default CSS, overriding styles. I mean, that is just setting yourself up for a world of pain. But most CSS frameworks are really, really flexible in the build stage. You can tweak a few variables that can dramatically alter the appearance of a stylesheet and give you an awesome base to build on. Pretty much for free. If you do all the CSS from scratch you're anyway going to write at the least a reset, some base typographic styles, responsive stuff, and some kind of grid system. Why not use something that is widely used, peer-reviewed, and very customisable?

donjh 11y ago
Do you have a particular framework you'd recommend?
- bwy 11y ago
  It must really depend on what you're looking for/doing. My favorite is http://getskeleton.com/ http://getskeleton.com/. I'm a noob, but I like that I can understand and completely customize the 400 lines of code (https://github.com/dhg/Skeleton/blob/master/css/skeleton.css https://github.com/dhg/Skeleton/blob/master/css/skeleton.css) easily.
- armandososa 11y ago
  I, personally, like foundation. Mostly because it's more barebones than Bootstrap, it's fairly easy to customise and it uses SCSS which I like better than Less. On the other hand, it sometimes feels like its development has stalled, while Bootstrap future looks bright https://twitter.com/mdo/status/591364406816079873?lang=en https://twitter.com/mdo/status/591364406816079873?lang=en
pookieinc 11y ago
Just to build on top of this, and syntax-aside, what about using frameworks like SMACSS, BEM, OOCSS, etc for organizational purposes? I've been hearing a lot about these especially lately and about their greatness for scalability and maintainability once implemented and relied on.
- lemonberry 11y ago
  Aren't those approaches to css rather than frameworks? I believe you can use a framework and still use those approaches to css.

donjh 11y ago

Do you have a particular framework you'd recommend?

bwy 11y ago
It must really depend on what you're looking for/doing. My favorite is http://getskeleton.com/ http://getskeleton.com/. I'm a noob, but I like that I can understand and completely customize the 400 lines of code (https://github.com/dhg/Skeleton/blob/master/css/skeleton.css https://github.com/dhg/Skeleton/blob/master/css/skeleton.css) easily.
armandososa 11y ago
I, personally, like foundation. Mostly because it's more barebones than Bootstrap, it's fairly easy to customise and it uses SCSS which I like better than Less. On the other hand, it sometimes feels like its development has stalled, while Bootstrap future looks bright https://twitter.com/mdo/status/591364406816079873?lang=en https://twitter.com/mdo/status/591364406816079873?lang=en

pookieinc 11y ago

Just to build on top of this, and syntax-aside, what about using frameworks like SMACSS, BEM, OOCSS, etc for organizational purposes? I've been hearing a lot about these especially lately and about their greatness for scalability and maintainability once implemented and relied on.

lemonberry 11y ago
Aren't those approaches to css rather than frameworks? I believe you can use a framework and still use those approaches to css.