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I still can't get over Moxie wanting Google and Apple and Microsoft to be gatekeepers of what you can and can't do with your device and calling sideloading "tha

by glogla 11y ago

I still can't get over Moxie wanting Google and Apple and Microsoft to be gatekeepers of what you can and can't do with your device and calling sideloading "that old broken desktop security model". I admire your work Moxie, but sadly we stand on different sides of war on general purpose computing. I can't help but be saddened that "the other side" got someone so talented and dedicated.

Joeboy 11y ago
I don't know about Apple or MS, but building TextSecure from source and installing it on an android phone is about as easy as you could reasonably expect it to be. It seems churlish to complain that there are also easier ways to install it. Edit: although, of course you have to trust Github or whoever if you install from source.
- Nutomic 11y ago
  They are actively opposing their apps to be published on F-Droid. Instead, they prefer on proprietary services for various (imo bad) reasons> https://f-droid.org/forums/topic/redphone-and-textsecure/#post-12296 https://f-droid.org/forums/topic/redphone-and-textsecure/#po...
- pakled_engineer 11y ago
  Also have to trust Google closed binary framework app isn't spying, or can't be remotely exploited to start spying, as it's a hard dependency for Textsecure/Redphone
rimantas 11y ago
There is no war on general purpose computing. Who even came up with the idea?
- glogla 11y ago
  Cory Doctorow http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-p...
- juliangregorian 11y ago
  Sorry, either you don't understand the concept or you haven't been paying attention. The whole movement by big manufacturers has been towards closed ecosystems, with the end user unable to exercise much control over their hardware, to the point where many people consider devices leased rather than owned. You can't even change the battery on Apple devices now without voiding the warranty. The same is happening with cars, TVs, you name it. If it's something that can be repaired or otherwise messed around with, the companies don't want you to be able to do it.
losvedir 11y ago
For context, I assume you're referring to this [0]? I think it's a bit more nuanced than you're letting on here. [0] https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/127 https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/127

by glogla 11y ago

Joeboy 11y ago

I don't know about Apple or MS, but building TextSecure from source and installing it on an android phone is about as easy as you could reasonably expect it to be. It seems churlish to complain that there are also easier ways to install it. Edit: although, of course you have to trust Github or whoever if you install from source.

Nutomic 11y ago
They are actively opposing their apps to be published on F-Droid. Instead, they prefer on proprietary services for various (imo bad) reasons> https://f-droid.org/forums/topic/redphone-and-textsecure/#post-12296 https://f-droid.org/forums/topic/redphone-and-textsecure/#po...
pakled_engineer 11y ago
Also have to trust Google closed binary framework app isn't spying, or can't be remotely exploited to start spying, as it's a hard dependency for Textsecure/Redphone

rimantas 11y ago

There is no war on general purpose computing. Who even came up with the idea?

glogla 11y ago
Cory Doctorow http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-p...
juliangregorian 11y ago
Sorry, either you don't understand the concept or you haven't been paying attention. The whole movement by big manufacturers has been towards closed ecosystems, with the end user unable to exercise much control over their hardware, to the point where many people consider devices leased rather than owned. You can't even change the battery on Apple devices now without voiding the warranty. The same is happening with cars, TVs, you name it. If it's something that can be repaired or otherwise messed around with, the companies don't want you to be able to do it.

losvedir 11y ago

For context, I assume you're referring to this [0]? I think it's a bit more nuanced than you're letting on here. [0] https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/127 https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/127