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>Western countries realized that a strong Germany was the only effective defense agains Soviet expansion. This makes no sense. The atrocities you list were alm

>Western countries realized that a strong Germany was the only effective defense agains Soviet expansion. This makes no sense. The atrocities you list were almost all done by the Soviets, yet you somehow blame the West? The West invested into West Germany from the beginning (Im not arguing this, it takes time to ramp up rebuilding and yes there was a real lag period of post-war crazyiness, fatigue, and lack of money. We had our own dead to bury and our own economies to fix up first) and tried to build Berlin as a model Western city. Yeah, the Soviets did fuck all, but the western side was a totally different story. Also, there's nothing wrong with forcing soldiers to rebuild what they broke. Oh you guys thought you could drop bombs and mortars endlessly and just go back home? This story should be a message to the young people clamoring for war today. If you lose, its not all hugs and sunshine. Its years of back-breaking work to undo the damage you have done.

ucaetano 11y ago
I'm not blaming anyone, just comparing the situation in Greece and post-WW2 Germany. All sides committed atrocities, but the Soviets' were by far the worst. West didn't "invested into West Germany from the begininng". Seriously, read the links I posted. "Also, there's nothing wrong with forcing soldiers to rebuild what they broke." Geneva conventions? I'm not defending German actions or anything. I'm just showing that there's absolutely no way to compare Greece and post-WW2 Germany.
- drzaiusapelord 11y ago
  >Geneva conventions? These only apply during wartime.
  - ucaetano 11y ago
    Well, then it's slavery of a defeated country. Are you defending that as legal?
- elorant 11y ago
  I'm not blaming anyone, just comparing the situation in Greece and post-WW2 Germany. All sides committed atrocities, but the Soviets' were by far the worst. Were they? During the siege of Stalingrad, Nazis were hanging dead bodies of kids [1] in the streets to demoralize the soviet troops. Of course it worked the other way, Soviets were so much infuriated by this that they fought to the last man. You have some audacity coming here and making such claims. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228373/Human-excrement-piled-waist-high-Full-horror-Stalingrad-revealed-time-interviews-Russian-soldiers-finally-light-day.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228373/Human-excrem...

ucaetano 11y ago

I'm not blaming anyone, just comparing the situation in Greece and post-WW2 Germany. All sides committed atrocities, but the Soviets' were by far the worst. West didn't "invested into West Germany from the begininng". Seriously, read the links I posted. "Also, there's nothing wrong with forcing soldiers to rebuild what they broke." Geneva conventions? I'm not defending German actions or anything. I'm just showing that there's absolutely no way to compare Greece and post-WW2 Germany.

drzaiusapelord 11y ago
>Geneva conventions? These only apply during wartime.
- ucaetano 11y ago
  Well, then it's slavery of a defeated country. Are you defending that as legal?
elorant 11y ago
I'm not blaming anyone, just comparing the situation in Greece and post-WW2 Germany. All sides committed atrocities, but the Soviets' were by far the worst. Were they? During the siege of Stalingrad, Nazis were hanging dead bodies of kids [1] in the streets to demoralize the soviet troops. Of course it worked the other way, Soviets were so much infuriated by this that they fought to the last man. You have some audacity coming here and making such claims. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228373/Human-excrement-piled-waist-high-Full-horror-Stalingrad-revealed-time-interviews-Russian-soldiers-finally-light-day.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228373/Human-excrem...