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I'd argue that HipChat, Campfire and Yammer all "lost" to Slack because they weren't moving fast enough. This Google trends line is interesting: https://www.go

I'd argue that HipChat, Campfire and Yammer all "lost" to Slack because they weren't moving fast enough. This Google trends line is interesting: https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=slack%2C%20hipchat%2C%20yammer&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B7 https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=slack%2C%20hipchat%2...

jtwebman 11y ago
Slack is a way to common term to gather any information from these trend lines.
- mgr86 11y ago
  I'll forever think slackware when I hear slack.
  - gargarplex 11y ago
    Nice surf move there
- iLoch 11y ago
  Ah yes, perhaps demand for spare rope went up substantially in 2014.
- vacri 11y ago
  There is an existing baseline before Slack was released that you can take as a rough baseline. It's true though - Hipchat was caught napping. Atlassian backburner'd it at exactly the wrong time, and by the time they starting fixing things, it was too late. This being said, Atlassian isn't really a 'startup' anymore. Hipchat is a side-product of a suite of gorilla products.
vuyani 11y ago
I honestly believe Slack got big so fast because of their awesome awesome campaign advert. Just like the dollar shave club ad too. Some startups forget that the first impression and cool factor still play a big role in creating a huge buzz about your app.
- seivan 11y ago
  I can't speak for the other applications, but have you used Hipchat? It's really poor in comparison to Slack. I preferred Skype instead of using Hipchat, that's how bad it was.
  - rubiquity 11y ago
    > I can't speak for the other applications, but have you used Hipchat? It's really poor in comparison to Slack. You're splitting hairs. They are both chat apps for crying out loud. Slack grew as fast as it did because it got pimped to us by VCs and thought leaders and then wannabe thought leaders and down all the way to the bottom rung of the societal ladder. Great strategy by Slack but there is nothing special about it (the product).
uniclaude 11y ago
I wouldn't be so sure. Slack was just a better product overall, offering a clear interafce and much better integrations than Hipchat. Hipchat being slow did not impact them as much as having a mediocre product to begin with. About Yammer, I wouldn't really put it in the same bucket as Slack, as it really tries to be a Facebook for your company, not a group chat.
hasenj 11y ago
HipChat came years before Slack. Slack came very late and yet still managed to eat the others. That seems like an argument against the idea that "being slow will kill you".

jtwebman 11y ago

Slack is a way to common term to gather any information from these trend lines.

mgr86 11y ago
I'll forever think slackware when I hear slack.
- gargarplex 11y ago
  Nice surf move there
iLoch 11y ago
Ah yes, perhaps demand for spare rope went up substantially in 2014.
vacri 11y ago
There is an existing baseline before Slack was released that you can take as a rough baseline. It's true though - Hipchat was caught napping. Atlassian backburner'd it at exactly the wrong time, and by the time they starting fixing things, it was too late. This being said, Atlassian isn't really a 'startup' anymore. Hipchat is a side-product of a suite of gorilla products.

vuyani 11y ago

I honestly believe Slack got big so fast because of their awesome awesome campaign advert. Just like the dollar shave club ad too. Some startups forget that the first impression and cool factor still play a big role in creating a huge buzz about your app.

seivan 11y ago
I can't speak for the other applications, but have you used Hipchat? It's really poor in comparison to Slack. I preferred Skype instead of using Hipchat, that's how bad it was.
- rubiquity 11y ago
  > I can't speak for the other applications, but have you used Hipchat? It's really poor in comparison to Slack. You're splitting hairs. They are both chat apps for crying out loud. Slack grew as fast as it did because it got pimped to us by VCs and thought leaders and then wannabe thought leaders and down all the way to the bottom rung of the societal ladder. Great strategy by Slack but there is nothing special about it (the product).

uniclaude 11y ago

I wouldn't be so sure. Slack was just a better product overall, offering a clear interafce and much better integrations than Hipchat. Hipchat being slow did not impact them as much as having a mediocre product to begin with. About Yammer, I wouldn't really put it in the same bucket as Slack, as it really tries to be a Facebook for your company, not a group chat.

hasenj 11y ago

HipChat came years before Slack. Slack came very late and yet still managed to eat the others. That seems like an argument against the idea that "being slow will kill you".