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This is absolutely rampant in the blackhat marketing world, (where I used to dabble, but still stay up on mostly out of curiosity). The model goes like this: W
by austenallred 11y ago
This is absolutely rampant in the blackhat marketing world, (where I used to dabble, but still stay up on mostly out of curiosity).
The model goes like this: Watch a few different pages and try to identify something that's bubbling up - that can be different viral facebook pages, reddit, whatever... there are a few different ways, but basically you constantly ping and scrape and try to identify stuff that's going viral as early as possible.
Once you've done that, you have an automated script that downloads the video and uploads it to your Facebook page or scrapes the content and throws it on your wordpress site with a really weak "link back" to the original content. You build up a Facebook page that has a few million likes, cover your wordpress pages in ads, and profit. It's not incredibly difficult to create an automated-if-unethical Buzzfeed.
It's incredible to watch one viral post or video spread throughout the web. It spreads out on different sites and platforms as quickly as it spreads on social media. Few end users really care what the original source was (especially since it's usually click-baity BS anyway), and the winners are the ones who can find the content the quickest and have the biggest reach.
I talked to a guy a couple of days ago who is making $60,000/month using this exact process, and has very little programming ability. He is, however, an absolutely shrewd and ruthless marketer with no ethical qualms about much of anything.
The content producers send him DMCA requests on occasion, and when that happens he or Facebook takes it down. But that's just a cost of doing business, and 95% of the content stolen never sees a DMCA request, so who cares? (Assuming you have no ethical compass). Content creators aren't constantly searching and scraping and trying to find other places where their content is hosted. That's hard enough to do on one platform alone (i.e. YouTube), let alone monitoring other platforms (Facebook) and a bunch of wordpress sites.
It's a game of content creators vs. "marketers."
It gets even more difficult for the content creators as the "marketers" get smarter - heighten the pitch of a video a little bit so sound matching software can't find it, reverse the video and choose different thumbnails so reverse image/video searches don't find it, spin the text content (visitors aren't really there for the great writing anyway), and you beat the vast majority of software. It's up to the individual content creators to play the same game Google is playing to kill the spammers, which is not their core competency. Unless Facebook does something on its own platform, this won't change. And even if they do, the best spammers will continue to outsmart the system.
The only way Facebook (and the content creators) win is if it becomes a core competency, much the same way defeating spam is for Google. I still know guys who can beat Google, but the level of sophistication is high enough that 99% of people can't keep up.
There are a few simple ways you can beat the vast majority of the content theft though; if anyone is interested feel free to email me and I'll point out some of the breadcrumbs the marketers leave behind.
- pxlpshr 11y agoIf there are a few simple things to beat a vast majority of content theft, I feel like you should author a blog post instead of keeping it private to an email conversation.
- austenallred 11y agoEDIT: on second thought, I'm not so sure telling spammers exactly how you're policing them isn't always the best thing to do. Emailing me is best, and if I think it's appropriate I'll publish.
- leephillips 11y agoInteresting. But after scraping the viral content, how do they get people to go to their page instead of the original? Does this work in tandem with gaming Google, so that searches for the viral keywords will get results with the blackhats on the first page?
- austenallred 11y agoThey share the viral content on their Facebook pages, which spreads from there, and people like their Facebook pages. The most spammy ones use clickjacking; basically they throw up something that covers the page with an ad (or a "like us on facebook" prompt), and use some JS to turn a click anywhere on the site into a facebook like. That's playing with fire though, as most of those pages get flagged and shut down. They do get a little bit of traffic from Google because their social reach is extreme (one of the bigger things Google looks for now) but it's around 85% pure Facebook traffic
- littletimmy 11y ago$60000/month off wordpress ads? That sounds unreasonably high. Why hasn't the market cleared off this profit by now?
- austenallred 11y agoLike I said, he's a really good marketer. The type that has been gaming Google since the beginning, but has since moved on to easier targets. That's not average; he pulls in around 6-18 million visitors/month (the variance is because viral traffic isn't exactly reliable) which is very much non-trivial. His sites climb into the top 500-1000 of Alexa rankings from time to time. Screenshot of his Google Analytics: http://imgur.com/Edfo3cm http://imgur.com/Edfo3cm