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Why can't YouTube users just send a DMCA takedown notice to Facebook? If a video makes someone a decent amount of money, then just sue for damages as well. I'

by dimino 11y ago

Why can't YouTube users just send a DMCA takedown notice to Facebook? If a video makes someone a decent amount of money, then just sue for damages as well. I'm not sure I understand what the problem is.

ritchiea 11y ago
They probably don't have anyone on staff whose responsibility is to do that but it seems it would be in their best interest to create a department that defends their top contributors with DMCA takedown notices.
- joeyaiello 11y ago
  If that's true, it feels like willful negligence. They have a video platform that has access to a billion people. These are views in the tens of millions. There's companies with order of magnitudes less traffic who have people fielding DMCA requests full-time. If FB doesn't, that's completely unacceptable, full stop.
  - Swannie 11y ago
    The suggestions was the it could be in YouTube's interest to create a team that sends out DMCA notices on the behalf of their top contributors. This would give YouTube a unique feature that would keep their content producers hosting content on their platform. However, the mechanics would be somewhat tricky. I'd guess it would work something like the following: submit a URL for a Facebook post/Wordpress post, that prompted YouTube to ContentID against your existing videos, and if it found a match, it put your flagged violation in a queue for human verification, and subsequent automated DMCA takedown gets sent to the hoster, along with a report of if the content is still available. Of course, that becomes open to the sort of abuse mentioned elsewhere in the thread. FaceBook certainly have a team responding to DMCA requests. They are just slow. Ideally, someone like YouTube licenses their technology, and opens up their contentID DB to the licensee for consumption... But again, I can see many avenues for abuse by licensee's (for example, automated "content capture" of content not currently in the DB), that would need good policies to help prevent.
spuz 11y ago
The video does an excellent job of explaining this beyond what is mentioned in the article. I highly recommend watching it (on YouTube).

by dimino 11y ago

ritchiea 11y ago

They probably don't have anyone on staff whose responsibility is to do that but it seems it would be in their best interest to create a department that defends their top contributors with DMCA takedown notices.

joeyaiello 11y ago
If that's true, it feels like willful negligence. They have a video platform that has access to a billion people. These are views in the tens of millions. There's companies with order of magnitudes less traffic who have people fielding DMCA requests full-time. If FB doesn't, that's completely unacceptable, full stop.
- Swannie 11y ago
  The suggestions was the it could be in YouTube's interest to create a team that sends out DMCA notices on the behalf of their top contributors. This would give YouTube a unique feature that would keep their content producers hosting content on their platform. However, the mechanics would be somewhat tricky. I'd guess it would work something like the following: submit a URL for a Facebook post/Wordpress post, that prompted YouTube to ContentID against your existing videos, and if it found a match, it put your flagged violation in a queue for human verification, and subsequent automated DMCA takedown gets sent to the hoster, along with a report of if the content is still available. Of course, that becomes open to the sort of abuse mentioned elsewhere in the thread. FaceBook certainly have a team responding to DMCA requests. They are just slow. Ideally, someone like YouTube licenses their technology, and opens up their contentID DB to the licensee for consumption... But again, I can see many avenues for abuse by licensee's (for example, automated "content capture" of content not currently in the DB), that would need good policies to help prevent.

spuz 11y ago

The video does an excellent job of explaining this beyond what is mentioned in the article. I highly recommend watching it (on YouTube).