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I can't wait for this to happen. I cannot stand lying, and it's my belief that a good majority of issues people face in their lives come down to lying or decei

I can't wait for this to happen. I cannot stand lying, and it's my belief that a good majority of issues people face in their lives come down to lying or deceit (lying by omission). How refreshing it would be if everyone was utterly sincere to each other.

bentcorner 11y ago
IMO, never going to happen, at least not 100%. If I believe in something that is not true, and my belief in that belief is true and sincere, am I lying?
- Xcelerate 11y ago
  I should have used only sincere then. It's been shown that people can convince themselves that something they initially knew was false is true just by repeatedly lying to themselves.
- frost_knight 11y ago
  If you say something that you sincerely believe is true, but isn't, then you aren't lying...you're wrong. Important difference.
task_queue 11y ago
Judging by those with Aspergers I know, they are as close to that as you'll get. It leads to dysfunctional behaviors because people don't want to earnestly told that their face is ugly when they first meet someone and every time after that. Honesty can be brutal. This also leads to another issue: when the data is centralized like this, those who oversee it can never be held to the level of accountability they hold others to.
- wrsh07 11y ago
  There's a lovely parable about this in I, Robot [the book].
- Retra 11y ago
  You have to place relevance before truth if you're not going to be a liar.
- Xcelerate 11y ago
  > people don't want to earnestly told that their face is ugly This says more about society than honesty. If we collectively quit valuing physical beauty (you know -- something you're born with and can't control), that kind of statement wouldn't be an issue. Say "I'm bad at basketball" and no one cares. Say "I'm unintelligent" and everyone does.
HOLYCOWBATMAN 11y ago
I find you utterly naive and I'm touching myself while reading your comment. I like big butt and I cannot lie.

bentcorner 11y ago

IMO, never going to happen, at least not 100%. If I believe in something that is not true, and my belief in that belief is true and sincere, am I lying?

Xcelerate 11y ago
I should have used only sincere then. It's been shown that people can convince themselves that something they initially knew was false is true just by repeatedly lying to themselves.
frost_knight 11y ago
If you say something that you sincerely believe is true, but isn't, then you aren't lying...you're wrong. Important difference.

task_queue 11y ago

Judging by those with Aspergers I know, they are as close to that as you'll get. It leads to dysfunctional behaviors because people don't want to earnestly told that their face is ugly when they first meet someone and every time after that. Honesty can be brutal. This also leads to another issue: when the data is centralized like this, those who oversee it can never be held to the level of accountability they hold others to.

wrsh07 11y ago
There's a lovely parable about this in I, Robot [the book].
Retra 11y ago
You have to place relevance before truth if you're not going to be a liar.
Xcelerate 11y ago
> people don't want to earnestly told that their face is ugly This says more about society than honesty. If we collectively quit valuing physical beauty (you know -- something you're born with and can't control), that kind of statement wouldn't be an issue. Say "I'm bad at basketball" and no one cares. Say "I'm unintelligent" and everyone does.

HOLYCOWBATMAN 11y ago

I find you utterly naive and I'm touching myself while reading your comment. I like big butt and I cannot lie.