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"And, it is amazing that the drugs that are least harmful, or not harmful at all, are the most illegal" That's just wrong, a drug like coffee is a good example

"And, it is amazing that the drugs that are least harmful, or not harmful at all, are the most illegal" That's just wrong, a drug like coffee is a good example of "least harmful" and isn't anywhere near "most illegal"

RevRal 17y ago
Coffee has an LD50, whereas they haven't found one for marijuana. I was speaking with that scope in mind. The specific drugs I had in mind were psychedelics.
- lg 17y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose#Examples http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose#Examples
  - RevRal 17y ago
    This what what my fact checker had turned up: http://www.druglibrary.org/SCHAFFER/LIBRARY/mj_overdose.htm http://www.druglibrary.org/SCHAFFER/LIBRARY/mj_overdose.htm And I was careful not to say THC.
riffic 17y ago
read up on caffeine then.
ekiru 17y ago
While I disagree to some extent with your parent's point(that legality of drug use isn't strongly correlated with the danger of said drug use), one data point(not illegal, mostly non-harmful) is hardly enough to refute it. To refute it, it is better to point out that relatively few controlled substances in the US have any significant controversy over their criminalization(marijuana and ecstasy are the only two that I recall).
- RevRal 17y ago
  I could have written my sentence better. If I used illegal-ness as my main qualifier instead of harm, that might fix some confusion. And, it is amazing that the most illegal drugs are the least physically harmful. Still not perfect, but an improvement. I'm no expert on this, so I admit that this might not always be the case. I went out looking for something to illustrate my point. Didn't need to go any further than wikipedia: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg/380px-Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Rat...

RevRal 17y ago

Coffee has an LD50, whereas they haven't found one for marijuana. I was speaking with that scope in mind. The specific drugs I had in mind were psychedelics.

lg 17y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose#Examples http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose#Examples
- RevRal 17y ago
  This what what my fact checker had turned up: http://www.druglibrary.org/SCHAFFER/LIBRARY/mj_overdose.htm http://www.druglibrary.org/SCHAFFER/LIBRARY/mj_overdose.htm And I was careful not to say THC.

riffic 17y ago

read up on caffeine then.

ekiru 17y ago

While I disagree to some extent with your parent's point(that legality of drug use isn't strongly correlated with the danger of said drug use), one data point(not illegal, mostly non-harmful) is hardly enough to refute it. To refute it, it is better to point out that relatively few controlled substances in the US have any significant controversy over their criminalization(marijuana and ecstasy are the only two that I recall).

RevRal 17y ago
I could have written my sentence better. If I used illegal-ness as my main qualifier instead of harm, that might fix some confusion. And, it is amazing that the most illegal drugs are the least physically harmful. Still not perfect, but an improvement. I'm no expert on this, so I admit that this might not always be the case. I went out looking for something to illustrate my point. Didn't need to go any further than wikipedia: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg/380px-Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Rat...