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If there's smoke there's fire. In my view, Occam's razor might indicate that coincidence is unlikely, and that the two major incidents in US on the same day Chi
by omnipedal 11y ago
If there's smoke there's fire. In my view, Occam's razor might indicate that coincidence is unlikely, and that the two major incidents in US on the same day China's market crash suggest it's a state sponsored cyber attack.
- pitnips 11y agoChina's market has been crashing for a few days now. How does a cyber attack on the NYSE help China? All trades will go through just fine on NASDAQ and BATS.
- omnipedal 11y agomaybe china doesn't have a sophisticated cyber-offense strategy so they are hitting whatever few targets they can.
- bildung 11y ago> In my view, Occam's razor might indicate that coincidence is unlikely, and that the two major incidents in US on the same day China's market crash suggest it's a state sponsored cyber attack. Occam's razor calls for an explanation that does not require the unneeded introduction of a new variable. If you need a state sponsored cyber attack as the alternative explanation, the coincidence theory should be preferred.
- rqebmm 11y agohttp://map.norsecorp.com/ http://map.norsecorp.com/ Cyberattacks originating from China is not a new variable
- bildung 11y ago> Cyberattacks originating from China is not a new variable Sure, but its mere existence in other contexts does not automatically make it the cause of the NYSE etc. glitches. The assumption of causal relationship without any proof is what violates Occam's razor. (And that map, while pretty, does not proof state sponsored cyber attacks. If I rented myself a $5 VPN account to Russia and then nmap whitehouse.gov, I would appear in that map as an attacker from Russia.)
- TeMPOraL 11y agoOccam's razor would actually suggest that coincidence is much more likely explanation than a malicious hacking by a (especially particular) foreign state actor. You have to look at relative probabilities.
- ska 11y agoYou state this in response to a comment linking to a good description of why, precisely, this is broken thinking. Did you even read it? Also, you've got Occam's razor around backwards, always a good way to cut yourself in public (Occam's razor resists adding more complexity to the solution without evidence)
- omnipedal 11y agoin the real world, people have to draw on their wisdom, intuition and guts, intelligence and common sense in order to make immediate partially speculative conclusions/decisions. there’s no luxury of engaging in pointless pedantic philosophizing that the ivory tower can afford. state sponsored cyber attack is less of a new variable than coincidence could ever be. 3 major us computer systems down on the same day chinas market crashed, not related at all, all just a coincidence, really? were the WTC attacks and pentagon attacks on 9/11 also two different "coincidences" or part of one same group of attacks? this site is a prime example why even average iq 100 people can outthink iq 140 engineer types at some tasks by a multiple factor using intuition and common sense since the smarter people rely overly on the slower left brain analysis that can't take many variables into account quickly, making them come up with some astoundingly morbid conclusions.