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I've got two droplets now, one for email/owncloud and another for personal projects with automated backups. It's pretty easy to use, but I worry I don't have th

I've got two droplets now, one for email/owncloud and another for personal projects with automated backups. It's pretty easy to use, but I worry I don't have the sysadmin chops to keep it secure. Edit: I followed tutorials on auto-updating packages through cron, securing ssh, and setting up ufw for only services needed when I set it up. It's been about 2 years now so maybe I shouldn't worry.

jdoss 11y ago
Honest question. How much would you pay to have something that manages the updates and setup for you and give you the sysadmin help when you need it?
- worklogin 11y ago
  That's what Rackspace does. I haven't used them in a while, but it looks like it's ALL they do now. (moved to DO, since it was half the cost and I /do/ have enough sysadmin chops to keep two linux servers patched). http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/compare-service-levels http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/compare-service-levels
  - jdoss 11y ago
    Yea but what if it was vendor agnostic? Rackspace has always been super expensive compared to the rest.
  - dougbarrett 11y ago
    Rackspace doesn't actively maintain the servers by applying updates, etc. You can go to them if 3rd party software breaks on your servers and they will help you out, but I know for a fact that they don't actively update the servers, and that's a good thing considering you'd want to probably roll that into doing a release where you take that server out of rotation.
- duggan 11y ago
  Judging by the general implosion of the PaaS industry, not enough to make it worthwhile. It's a much more complex problem than most people think.
  - chourobin 11y ago
    what makes you say the PaaS industry is imploding?
mister_m 11y ago
You should check out some of the documentation on Linode's site. They have some great tips about doing some very basic security such as securing SSH, keeping things updated, etc. Worth a peek.
andrenotgiant 11y ago
This page is a good starting point https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/7-security-measures-to-protect-your-servers https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/7-security-...
angersock 11y ago
Would anybody be interested in esoteric hosting? Think Linode, but specifically for FreeBSD/OpenBSD/Plan9/TempleOS/MinuetOS/etc.?
- talloaktrees 11y ago
  TempleOS has no networking :)
  - tantalic 11y ago
    Which makes it that much cheaper to operate ;)
  - angersock 11y ago
    Presumably it has serial drivers though, yes?
  - mozumder 11y ago
    Well, that's because an omniscient god is the lowest network layer!
- rafadc 11y ago
  Digital Ocean supports FreeBSD ;)
  - protomyth 11y ago
    and if you feel a bit daring http://www.tubsta.com/2015/04/openbsd-on-digital-ocean/ http://www.tubsta.com/2015/04/openbsd-on-digital-ocean/
- arca_vorago 11y ago
  I've been thinking about using DFlyBSD as a host platform for such things, given some of it's awesome networking/virtualization features.
  - cgag 11y ago

jdoss 11y ago

Honest question. How much would you pay to have something that manages the updates and setup for you and give you the sysadmin help when you need it?

worklogin 11y ago
That's what Rackspace does. I haven't used them in a while, but it looks like it's ALL they do now. (moved to DO, since it was half the cost and I /do/ have enough sysadmin chops to keep two linux servers patched). http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/compare-service-levels http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/compare-service-levels
- jdoss 11y ago
  Yea but what if it was vendor agnostic? Rackspace has always been super expensive compared to the rest.
- dougbarrett 11y ago
  Rackspace doesn't actively maintain the servers by applying updates, etc. You can go to them if 3rd party software breaks on your servers and they will help you out, but I know for a fact that they don't actively update the servers, and that's a good thing considering you'd want to probably roll that into doing a release where you take that server out of rotation.
duggan 11y ago
Judging by the general implosion of the PaaS industry, not enough to make it worthwhile. It's a much more complex problem than most people think.
- chourobin 11y ago
  what makes you say the PaaS industry is imploding?

mister_m 11y ago

You should check out some of the documentation on Linode's site. They have some great tips about doing some very basic security such as securing SSH, keeping things updated, etc. Worth a peek.

andrenotgiant 11y ago

This page is a good starting point https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/7-security-measures-to-protect-your-servers https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/7-security-...

angersock 11y ago

Would anybody be interested in esoteric hosting? Think Linode, but specifically for FreeBSD/OpenBSD/Plan9/TempleOS/MinuetOS/etc.?

talloaktrees 11y ago
TempleOS has no networking :)
- tantalic 11y ago
  Which makes it that much cheaper to operate ;)
- angersock 11y ago
  Presumably it has serial drivers though, yes?
- mozumder 11y ago
  Well, that's because an omniscient god is the lowest network layer!
rafadc 11y ago
Digital Ocean supports FreeBSD ;)
- protomyth 11y ago
  and if you feel a bit daring http://www.tubsta.com/2015/04/openbsd-on-digital-ocean/ http://www.tubsta.com/2015/04/openbsd-on-digital-ocean/
arca_vorago 11y ago
I've been thinking about using DFlyBSD as a host platform for such things, given some of it's awesome networking/virtualization features.
- cgag 11y ago