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> "We stepped up and fixed all the problems, so there is no need to continue the debate." Interesting take. When I read Holder's quotes, “we are in a different
by ChrisAntaki 11y ago
> "We stepped up and fixed all the problems, so there is no need to continue the debate."
Interesting take. When I read Holder's quotes, “we are in a different place as a result of the Snowden disclosures” and “his actions spurred a necessary debate”, I got the sense he was acknowledging progress we'd made as a society. He didn't seem to imply the debates or reforms were over though.
- scintill76 11y agoWell, it's a cynical take, influenced by my cynical (and, admittedly, kind of ignorant) view of the USA FREEDOM Act, which I presume is a major part of the "different place" Holder is referring to. In many ways its purpose is by definition to bring us back to the same place by restoring expired laws. People like natsec whistleblowers, ACLU, and EFF don't seem to think the passed version does much -- a small symbolic victory at best. Personally I worry the gov't and media's labeling it as "reform" will contribute to fading interest in the public. Holder could be nudging that propaganda here. So yeah, I am reading too much into what he said, but that's sort of my reasoning for it. To be fair, I am not sure how I would define meaningful reform, but I think it needs to do more than USA FREEDOM. I could be missing some other progress, too?
- ChrisAntaki 11y agoHolder's actual quote was so short in the article, it's hard to know exactly what he was referring to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯