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> The war on drugs didn't work out as intended. The war on pedophilia seems much safer. We don't have a war on pedophilia. We have a war on "child pornography"

> The war on drugs didn't work out as intended. The war on pedophilia seems much safer. We don't have a war on pedophilia. We have a war on "child pornography". I put "child pornography" in scare quotes because it's abundantly clear that many of the laws that aim to target child pornography really only use it as a bogeyman to obscure some other agenda. Also, as for "safer", whatever we're doing now is clearly putting children at risk. In many countries (including the US), pedophilia is exempt from typical confidentiality laws regarding mental illnesses[0]. This makes pedophiles less likely to seek professional help, and I can only imagine that this means that they are more likely to harm or abuse a child. [0] https://medium.com/matter/youre-16-youre-a-pedophile-you-dont-want-to-hurt-anyone-what-do-you-do-now-e11ce4b88bdb https://medium.com/matter/youre-16-youre-a-pedophile-you-don...

dools 11y ago
Yes this has long been my concern. Is pedophilia something that can be rehabilitated? Is it mental illness? A sexual orientation? By providing people with no choices are we creating underground networks? To me there are echoes of drug prohibition here. I go fucking crazy thinking about my kids getting taken. When I watched true detective i was seriously ready to throw up. Particularly chilling was the last line: "we'll never get them all". Since law enforcement can never possibly eradicate a problem, and since we provide no way for someone to get help without being incriminated, aren't we just leaving the opportunity wide open for this to fester under the surface?
- click170 11y ago
  BBC Panorama had an excellent episode exploring these very questions. At least I think it was Panorama. I tried searching for it but all I get are hits about Jimmy Savile. They found a young man who selfidenties as a pedophile, who was actually willing to go on camera and talk about his desires and urges. It was quite fascinating, and I do see many parellels not just to the war on drugs but to homosexuality as well. We aren't treating these people in a humane way, and IMO we are making the problem worse by perpetuating a Wich Hunt.
  - jpgleeson 11y ago
    I want to say that this was Channel 4 instead. I think it aired last year.
    - click170 11y ago
      If does feel like it was last year ish, you're probably right about it being Channel 4.
  - dools 11y ago
    Mia Freedman copped a bit of flack for saying somethingn similar: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/mia-freedman-criticised-for-comparing-gay-people-to-paedophiles-20141017-117dvl.html http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/mia-freedma... and has published about this issue on her site http://www.mamamia.com.au/social/19-year-old-pedophile/ http://www.mamamia.com.au/social/19-year-old-pedophile/
  - ctchocula 11y ago
    Is it this episode? [0] [0] http://www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/the-paedophile-next-door http://www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/the... [1] Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO4yfvc9THs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO4yfvc9THs

dools 11y ago

Yes this has long been my concern. Is pedophilia something that can be rehabilitated? Is it mental illness? A sexual orientation? By providing people with no choices are we creating underground networks? To me there are echoes of drug prohibition here. I go fucking crazy thinking about my kids getting taken. When I watched true detective i was seriously ready to throw up. Particularly chilling was the last line: "we'll never get them all". Since law enforcement can never possibly eradicate a problem, and since we provide no way for someone to get help without being incriminated, aren't we just leaving the opportunity wide open for this to fester under the surface?

click170 11y ago
BBC Panorama had an excellent episode exploring these very questions. At least I think it was Panorama. I tried searching for it but all I get are hits about Jimmy Savile. They found a young man who selfidenties as a pedophile, who was actually willing to go on camera and talk about his desires and urges. It was quite fascinating, and I do see many parellels not just to the war on drugs but to homosexuality as well. We aren't treating these people in a humane way, and IMO we are making the problem worse by perpetuating a Wich Hunt.
- jpgleeson 11y ago
  I want to say that this was Channel 4 instead. I think it aired last year.
  - click170 11y ago
    If does feel like it was last year ish, you're probably right about it being Channel 4.
- dools 11y ago
  Mia Freedman copped a bit of flack for saying somethingn similar: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/mia-freedman-criticised-for-comparing-gay-people-to-paedophiles-20141017-117dvl.html http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/mia-freedma... and has published about this issue on her site http://www.mamamia.com.au/social/19-year-old-pedophile/ http://www.mamamia.com.au/social/19-year-old-pedophile/
- ctchocula 11y ago
  Is it this episode? [0] [0] http://www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/the-paedophile-next-door http://www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/the... [1] Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO4yfvc9THs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO4yfvc9THs